Tekton haters and bashers you just got a new target!


seamaster300m

Haters will be haters…I see few of ‘happy’ ASR members taking a stab at design and aesthetics and you certainly enjoy stirring the pot 🤣

 

I don't think there is any real commonality between Tekton and this Monitor Audio speaker other than multiple drivers

I don't think there is any real commonality between Tekton and this Monitor Audio speaker other than multiple drivers

 

I agree. Any comparison is quite a stretch...

Why not go back to early Legacy Audio speaker designs that used multiple driver arrays? The list goes on and on.

All the best,
Nonoise

All kinds of people in the world, all kinds of speakers. Live and let live and try not worry what the other guy has. Just enjoy the music.

I’ve never been in the Tekton bashing business. Never heard them but thought they had some interesting ways to create a coaxial speaker. Everyone criticizing them for comb filtering was wrong. Everyone.

I want to say a couple of things about Monitor Audio:

  • Their AMT tweets are legitimately awesome
  • The side-ways midwoofers are absolutely fascinating to me

Let me explain. I’ve been toying with the idea of line arrays which face inwards like this for a while based on the idea that Doppler distortion vanishes at 90 degrees to the driver’s axis. Some of us believe that Doppler distortion caused by LF interfereing with the mids is a major reason why adding a subwoofer to 2-way systems makes everything sound better. With six 6.5" or so midwoofers, pointed sideways this speaker has a legitimate chance at being a GOAT for the average enthusiast who wants neutrality and low distortion and great output.

By average enthusiast, I mean those of us who can’t afford Magico’s $750k beast in each of our homes.

I truly envy the engineers at Magico who get to put things like this together. I wish I worked there.

Monitor Audio has been around for well over 50 years, Tekton has not.  Monitor Audio designs it’s own drivers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio has a group of designers and engineers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio is a large corporation with $$$ for R&D, Tekton is on a shoestring budget. These two companies could not be any more dissimilar. 

Sorry people, today I've been typing fast and have mixed up Mundorf, Magico and Monitor already.  I beg your patience.

 

Erik

I’ve never heard a Tekton speaker so I am obviously no Tekton fanboy, but it seems to me that the MA 50 midrange/tweeter array bears a striking visual resemblance to that of many of the Tektons.

Monitor Audio has been around for well over 50 years, Tekton has not.  Monitor Audio designs its own drivers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio has a group of designers and engineers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio is a large corporation with $$$ for R&D, Tekton is on a shoestring budget. These two companies could not be any more dissimilar. 

This says it all.  OP just seems to be trying to stir the pot.

 

Monitor Audio has been around for well over 50 years, Tekton has not.  Monitor Audio designs its own drivers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio has a group of designers and engineers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio is a large corporation with $$$ for R&D, Tekton is on a shoestring budget. These two companies could not be any more dissimilar. 

This says it all.  OP just seems to be trying to stir the pot.

I agree!

Mike

They're both ugly so they have that going for them. I misplaced my giant clothespin anyone see it ?

"Monitor Audio has been around for well over 50 years, Tekton has not. Monitor Audio designs its own drivers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio has a group of designers and engineers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio is a large corporation with $$$ for R&D, Tekton is on a shoestring budget. These two companies could not be any more dissimilar."

 

For over 50 years MA never had a statement flagship product to show their technology excellency, with all that money into R&D and finally come out a similar idea like Tekon (and others, I am only talking about the array design here). That means something, Eric is a talented speaker designer, I will give him credit for that. As far as the look, the MA Concept 50 (and Tekton) are not even near as ugly as Dahlquist DQ-10 or Linkwitz speakers. I had a chance to listen to the Linkwitz system at Seattle Audio Show last month, they are one of the better room in the show (well within top 10). The best box speaker in Seattle show (to me) was Joseph Audio. Best speakers other than box design are Pure Audio Project, Spatial Audio, and Songer Audio. I was surprised the PAP were little less satisfying than Spatial due to all Pass Labs amplification that made the sound signature a little too warm sounded "seemed" less transparent and the mid bass bumped into vocal a lot (transparency should be one of the best PAP’s qualities BTW). Songer Audio was in a league on its own above others, beautiful sounding but I can’t afford them. Daedalus and Salk speakers are super nice as well, I totally don’t mind to own any of those two, Daedalus preferred due to their high efficiency. PS: the AMT drivers in the middle of the Concept 50 is very interesting.

Got to admit that both are ugly though.

 

 

Monitor Audio has been around for well over 50 years, Tekton has not.  Monitor Audio designs its own drivers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio has a group of designers and engineers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio is a large corporation with $$$ for R&D, Tekton is on a shoestring budget. These two companies could not be any more dissimilar. 

 

Monitor Audio has been around for well over 50 years, Tekton has not.  Monitor Audio designs it’s own drivers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio has a group of designers and engineers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio is a large corporation with $$$ for R&D,Tekton is on a shoestring budget. These two companies could not be any more dissimilar. 

Hotcha hotcha

Sometimes more engineers in the same sandbox is not a good thing at all. Let alone the bureaucratic BS that lives to a certain extent in every larger company. 

"... you just got a new target!"

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Dangit, is this thing even loaded??

These are definitely different than anything I have seen.  I am not sure how the sound is released from the cabinet.  I have not heard one person in this group ever mention the word Monitor Audio.  I wonder how efficient these speakers are and what power of amplifier would be best suited to drive them.

I wonder what these will sell for?  All I need is more money and permission from the gate keeper.

thanks for sharing this.

 

thanks so much for sharing 

I think I read that the MA speaker would be priced at $62k. I think I could try every speaker in Tekton's lineup for that amount. Tekton and these speakers should not be compared. I seriously doubt the MA are that good...

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I think the only commonality between the two is the word ugly. That aside the Concept 50 has heredity. The Tekton line…jam it in the garage with old 901’s and the like.

Cheers

It ain’t the prettiest speaker I’ve ever seen, but I’d sure like to hear them someday.

 

I think speakers for me are the most personal choice in audio. I'm convinced for my self that the d'apolito arrangement is best time and phase aligned. Dunlavy is my choice. I just don't feel the need to look for another speaker. But that is just my personal choice and only Duntech makes anything available to buy new.

unfortunately they're not very good looking speakers but they sure sound incredible and talking to the company they said it was probably going to be around $50,000 US.

PS the tekton speakers are mid-fi at best they're not in the same league as the monitor audio brand especially the gold and the platinum.

2psyop

Tekton is definitely not in the league of monitor audio maybe they're silver series but not their golden platinum, tekton are mid-fi speakers at Best very two-dimensional and flat sounding. their driver technology is not even in the same universe as monitor audios.

2psyop,

I guess you haven't heard the platinum 2 series their world class speakers better than magico, Wilson,Focal, Sonus Faber, extremely underpriced for the sound quality you get will go up against any of the super expensive speakers in the $80,000 range and I'm talking about the platinum 500s at 32,000.

There’s something a bit Star Wars about the design. I got to hear these in Munich, they sound interesting!

 

I have owned several monitor speakers I literally broke the basket ,you would think 

a nice cast basket Wrong, a polymor plastic I rebuilt several Xovers much much better sound , the magnets too nothing to write home about made in Wuhan , their platinum series is their only very respectable speakers from my experiences.

No thanks I stick now only U.S,or Europe for Loudspeakers , Quality does count !

electronics especially Digital China -Taiwan,Hongkong make some very good digital products ,Denafrips,and Holosprings come to mind , so yes there are exceptions to the rule.

I owned Dahlquist DQ10’s for 24 years and never found them ugly. The stands, yes, but the speakers themselves with the solid walnut side pieces, no. 

Just curious, how many of you bashers of the Tekton speakers, have actually owned a pair? And, what was your associated equipment, Amp, Source, Room acoustics etc. I have owned a pair of Tekton Double Impacts (upgraded version) for almost 3 years now. System not  ultra expensive, just under 20k. Of which the bank and I enjoy. Listen mainly to R&R 60' 70'80's. I believe with the right electronics,  my speakers sing. Just recently added one of the finest CD transports out there, New Project RS2T. Not the most expensive, but a sound that is to die for. See the long list of people that own them and heard them on the Project RS2T blog on audiogon. I also own a pair of Focal Aria 948's in another system, and like them a lot, but, No desire to replace the Tektons with them. Just my 2cents. Robert TN

@robshaw - Tekton makes great sounding speakers. Ignore the haters & enjoy your system. 

urbie

I have had some bookshelf Monitor Audio bronze speakers and I think the brand is great. My MA speakers are very inexpensive and were intended (many years ago) to be part of a home theatre system I completely abandoned and have zero interest in doing now. But my point is this, Monitor Audio makes speakers at different price points. The speaker in question (and I have not heard it) is north of $50K. I would not expect any Tekton speaker to be able to match it. To be fair, it should be compared to speakers $25K and up and then one can say if it’s that good. I am a very budget minded person myself. I doubt I could spend $50K on ANY speaker, but $3k I can....and I am happy with the sound of Tekton Double Impact SE speakers for that price. I fully support anybody buying any speakers they like... why not??

I think a lot of people on this thread have lost what a good system can bring, what we all strive for is very simple. We want to be emotionally moved by the music, that’s it. When your system really moves you that’s what keeps us going back for another two hour session, it’s what fuels us so to speak. So all this bickering and what not is just immature. If your systems really moves you , brings a tear to the eye then no matter what the cost you have your great system.

"Monitor Audio has been around for well over 50 years, Tekton has not.  Monitor Audio designs it’s own drivers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio has a group of designers and engineers, Tekton does not. Monitor Audio is a large corporation with $$$ for R&D, Tekton is on a shoestring budget. These two companies could not be any more dissimilar."

Excellent points stereo5.

And that is why Tekton is the far better value.  Unlike you I have spent years with both  Tekton and MA  products--have you?  Big corporations equal huge overhead.  A team of engineers hardly guarantees better sound.  Teams usually mean compromise.  Eric Alexander vision is focused--he will deliver the most performance for your audio dollar--plain and simple.  If you do not like how he does that, move on and be happy.

These Tekton missives are like watching Civil War enactments.They only do it to remind people that they're still around and carry a grudge.

All the best,
Nonoise

No thanks I stick now only U.S,or Europe for Loudspeakers

 

Who wants to tell him?

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Now I see how some members can accrue so many posts.  It's really quite easy when you have nothing helpful to say.  Just post any random thought you have.

corelli - Great take and comment on this subject. Agreed on all points.

"Excellent points stereo5.

And that is why Tekton is the far better value.  Unlike you I have spent years with both  Tekton and MA  products--have you?  Big corporations equal huge overhead.  A team of engineers hardly guarantees better sound.  Teams usually mean compromise.  Eric Alexander vision is focused--he will deliver the most performance for your audio dollar--plain and simple.  If you do not like how he does that, move on and be happy."

Secretguy the drivers are not cheap, I found that out when I blew 2 drivers ,my own fault.Plus my speaker tech, who design speakers was shocked on the design and the sound.