For value, the Fritz monitors are outstanding.
Compare them to Wilson or Gamuts.
Compare them to Wilson or Gamuts.
Easy, Kenjit! We already learned from you that ATC has crappy envlosures and the magnets are too big.
So I’ll inform you, since you seem to really really need it. A lot more goes into making a good sounding speaker other than slapping some drivers in a crappy box. I think it is hilarious that you have no clue about crossover design, how that crossover will interact with certain drivers, how those drivers interact with the speaker enclosure, and how all the parts add up to a whole.
I find it incredibly ignorant on your part to continually spew out misinformation based on your opinions which are formed with no science or experience on your part.
Do you honestly think you can buy any spec capacitors and resistors and just blindly pair them with any speaker and then just throw them in any enclosure? That’s complete stupidity.
If you haven’t noticed, no one really cares about your idiotic theories. There are companies pushing the boundaries of speaker building, while you are at home telling us that the best sound is in an anechoic chamber, or that you should just mount your speakers in your wall, and cut out the siding, framing, insulation on the wall so as to not have any back wave
You are absolutely nuts and I’m sure, an absolute peach to be around.
Go back to your cheap earbuds, bose wave radio, sonos system and report back about how its your reference
Fritz are not very good as they are just expensive drivers in cheap mdf boxes. Anybody could do that.
You talk a lot about speaker design, you have called crossover components, and I quote "mumbo-jumbo", you have denied that science or engineering plays any part in speaker design, and yet you have never, not once, published anything showing you know how to make a decent speaker.
Please show your work.
"and how are you supposed to decide which is the best between ATC and Magico?"
- by using your ears, in your system, in your room. It really is that simple.
"Fritz are not very good as they are just expensive drivers in cheap mdf boxes. Anybody could do that."
- So you have auditioned them and came to this conclusion or is this just another kenjitism? It's all crap because you say so....
Fritz speakers are top notch, very high quality. Could very well be my next pair of speakers when the time comes. Please be advised to ignore Kenjit on matters regarding quality of speakers where he only offers up an ax to grind.
1) Best of show sound when I heave heard them and that includes soundstage and imaging
2) Unique crossover design that provides an easy load to drive.....even a few watts of tube power can do very well with excellent bass extension for the size and few if any other high quality speakers this size can do this particular trick
3) Only high quality third party parts used and yes also high quality cabinet.
4) These can deliver a lot of top notch sound especially for smaller monitor speakers off most any amp.
5) Top notch sound + top notch quality + relatively small package for all that = top notch value.
So you have auditioned them and came to this conclusion or is this just another kenjitism? It's all crap because you say so....i have auditioned plenty of speakers. Most of them are wooden boxes. I am sick of wooden boxes. What more do you expect out of a wooden speaker? How many more horrible wooden boxes do we need on the market before somebody realizes we have reached a limit with what you can achieve out of wooden boxes?
1) Best of show sound when I heave heard them and that includes soundstage and imagingyou can say that about every speaker.
even a few watts of tube power can do very well with excellent bass extension for the size and few if any other high quality speakers this size can do this particular trickThe keyword here is trick. It is indeed a trick. There is no way to increase sensitivity unless you accept poor bass. You cant have high sensitivity, small size and window rattling bass down to 20hz its just not going to happen.
I’m listening to a pair of $600 Vanatoo Transparent One Encore active speakers in our 12x12’ sunroom with vaulted ceiling and Gotta say in there these sound about as good as most any stand mount monitor speaker I have heard at any price. That includes some very popular brands in these parts. I can’t hear where they really lack anywhere except in that they do not do the bottom octave much but even with well recorded organ music, I don’t feel you are missing much at least in that room which has seen many speakers come and go in it. Very impressive!
For something different, Selah Audio Tempesta, a three way monitor speaker . This speaker is very well designed, wonderful sounding and will work with any number of amps. The Tempesta is now a MK2 version. ...I had the original MK1 and have not heard the updated version. ...just for full disclosure.
I've never heard, but have read great reviews on these cheap drivers in a crappy box made by Buchardt, the S400's
Interesting test with very high end gear on this youtube video.You may have to fast forward in some places as some of the music has been remove for copyright reasons
Watch "Buchardt S400 test run and review." on YouTube
Gosta, no they’re not. But i don’t get what that has to do with my question?
I’ve actually never used a 2 way design.
Lately I’ve been curious to listen more closely to a few. The mentioned ones above are rather small compaired to MM 27. Hm, forgot. I had a small PMC monitor 2 years. But it was hardly full range. If I would buy a set now, they have to better MM 27
When Christopher Columbus returned from the new world, he was honored at a Royal dinner. Some of the "ignorant/arrogant" people in attendance felt his accomplishment was not so great. "All you did is sail West until you hit land, and then sailed East until you returned home. No great accomplishment, I could have done that..."
(Does that ignorant/arrogant voice remind anyone of someone?)
So, Columbus requested a boiled egg to be brought to the table.
He handed the egg to the people at the dinner and asked them to stand it on its end. The egg went around the table and no one could do it.
When the egg returned to Columbus, he gently tapped the tip of the egg on the surface of the table, cracking the shell ever so slightly.
He stood the egg up on its end.
Well, there was an uproar of course. The ignorant/arrogant ones in attendance exclaimed "Well, I could have done that!"
Columbus replied "Yes, but I did it..."