Don, how are you making the streaming connection? What's your hardware setup? Would you please comment on the catalogue when you get a chance?
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Betting against Amazon has proved to be rather pointless. I think its awesome that a well capitalized company who also happens to be the largest seller of physical media music is a game changer. I subscribe to both Tidal and Qobuz presently and Tidal is likely to be the odd man out. I am already an Amazon Prime so this will be great. I also bet the Amazon music app will be much better than the others.
I’ll ask again. Is it Roon ready? For the many many Roon users that is a must. Also, the numbers don’t tell you if it will sound better. You need to listen to know that. I find Qobuz to sound better than Tidal, in Roon, playing files at the exact same 16/44.1. Qobuz is warmer and less forward. It is more at ease. I like that more while others will like the more aggressive Tidal sound. Like all things audio, this is subjective. We Aphiles will buy the service that sounds the best to us. How the service sounds is more than the numbers!
So really cant say one will kill the other. For us, it all about subjective sound quality and I am sure these services sound different. More competition is great and will force prices down and/or increase the product quality. Very good for all of us!
I’m a prime subscriber and most of my work is with AWS these days, so I am going to have to give this a whirl sometime soon.
I would attempt to run it on my Amazon Fire box and definitely on various ios devices I already own. I already use those with Plex to stream from my music library to my main system via lightning connector to usb to portable Chord Mojo DAC out to pre-amp line in (or straight to headphones) and that is already CD quality and sounds very good, where I spend 90+% of my serious listening time these days, , so expecting similar or better here depending on quality of source material.
If I can figure a way to run on my older Squeeze devices that I still normally use, that would be a bonus.
This definitely looks like a game changer that provides an easy path for most people who listen to music on iphones and other portable devices to upgrade their sound quality and plug into good old fashioned amps and speakers even if desired.
Could be the best thing that has happened in the last 20 years or so for the audiophile world and its vendors (except for those selling proprietary source devices). Similar in magnitude potentially to hifi stereo records in the 50s and CDs in teh 80s. Hey its another 30 years since that now......just in time!
Even better if the others competing for online music streaming market like Apple and Spotify follow suit. Look for Tidal and other small providers to get purchased and integrated into these larger vendor platforms.
“Amazon just killed Tidal”
Not so fast.....i’ve signed up with Amazon HD Music. The HD selection is pretty scant.
Now the positive, the SQ is excellent in 44.1kHz and high resolution (upto 96kHz). I have yet to come across anything beyond 96kHz resolution. If HD catalog grows like Tidal/Qobuz then for me Amazon will be a bargain at $12.99/monthly or $130/yearly.
I use Plex and Squeeze in my house currently. Also Plex for remote access.
I'd like to see Plex integrate. If Roon integrates I might consider that.
Thing is I read Roon does not provide remote access which I use a lot so Plex will not go away until some better option for that comes along. Hi Res Amazon streaming integrated with my own music library would be a very big +.
I purchased and downloaded a Led Zeppelin song at 24/96 and the spectrum shows a brick wall filter at 20K like it is an upsampled redbook CD, it may be a 24/96 file but it is only about 5 Mb compared to the same song at 24/96 from HDtracks that is over 90 mB... In preferences I chose to buy and download at Ultra HD resolution. The Amazon file is also MP3.... something fishy at Amazon I think
I got this on another forum
"Those settings are for the "offline listening" downloads that are tied to your Amazon Music / Music HD player and streaming subscription. Cancel your streaming subscription and they're gone..
so even though in Amazon you have the option to select HD downloads after you purchase a song, you only get an MP3 file when you do it
It is not Roon-compatible at present, nor does it work with most streamers. But that is just a matter of time. What is bad is that it is unlikely ever to work with Chromecast Audio, which is a real shame.
My prediction: I think this will kill off Tidal and MQA. I think Qobuz may survive but I am not by any means certain. I also suspect Apple will follow to hi-res but am not so sure about Spotify, at least not in the short to medium term.
Take this for what it is worth, as I am about as tech savvy as your run-of-the-mill orangutan. With that said, I have been a subscriber to TIDAL for a year or so, which I stream through my Aurender X100L server. In the past, I had Amazon, but moved to TIDAL for the better resolution.
When I read this thread a couple of nights ago and saw there was a free trial, I decided to give Amazon HD a whirl. I found I couldn’t use it with my iPad, which is too old for the download. However, I was able to download it on my Mac laptop, and then had no problems linking it with my Aurender wirelessly. Granted, it shows that I am getting "only" redbook resolution, which I assume will improve only when Aurender gets on board and integrates Amazon HD as it has with TIDAL? I look forward to learning more about this from more experienced, knowledgeable folks on this issue.
What I can say is that even with redbook resolution, it sounds very good to me. I’ve only had a short time to play with it, but I will get a better handle this weekend on comparisons between the new and improved Amazon and ripped files both in FLAC and WAV on my Aurender. So far, I am pleased with what I’ve heard and optimistic that better things are yet to come.
I received this notice from Bluesound........Bluesound users in select regions can subscribe to Amazon Music’s all-new lossless streaming tiers, Amazon Music HD and Ultra HD....Now available in the US, UK, Germany and Japan, you can learn how to add Amazon Music to your BluOS system. I'll give this a shot.
Based on my understanding, Amazon needs to build an API for music servers, like the Aurender, Innuos, etc., to use to build their Server Apps (like the Aurender Conductor App) to interface to Amazon. This will take some time. We will see.
I am ready to use Amazon Streaming on my Aurender server. Any info on when Amazon will release their API (if ever)?
I will have to take another look at Amazon music. I checked it out about a year ago and the selection of albums was definitely lacking in the Progressive Rock genre. I use Tidal, full albums savable to favorites and downloadable. The bill goes to my monthly Sprint bill with a discount. Also, the Tidal app is preloaded on my Oppo BDP-105. Sounds great through my MCIntosh system.
Because I cancelled Amazon’s Music Unlimited two months ago I am not eligible for the 90 day free trial. I have Prime so it says I have to subscribe to a minimum of three months at $7.99 a month for HD then it would go up to $12.99. I canceled Unlimited because I did not like that it was mainly song and playlist oriented and not Album oriented like Tidal. I stuck with Unlimited for a few month and decided I liked the Tidal user interface and content much better. So unless there is a major change with how Amazon HD offers albums and ways to save them in favorite lists I will stick with Tidal.
The king is dead. Long live the king.
Exactly this above!
And unless they change their format to resemble Qobuz to be album based and not copying iTunes and being song and playlist based it will never get my attention.
Maybe I am the odd one out but I have NEVER created a playlist in my life as I prefer to listen to a full album even if it does contain a few clunkers.
I guess that habit follows on from analog background where you play a side of vinyl all the way through and not leaping up and down to cue up and skip a track ( at least I dont!).
I’ve used Spotify for 2 years, Tidal for 6 (?), and Qobuz for 1 month now. I prefer Qobuz HiRes over MQA. I just downloaded Amazon HD so we’ll see. What i do like though is that all my Rodrigo y Gabriela albums are there and many are in HD. Same with Metallica. Tidal and Qobuz have no older Metallica...
Anyhow, my dragonfly dac is stuck thinking all these Amazon tracks are Hi-Res when they aren’t. Is there a Wasapi Exclusive Mode, like on Qobuz?