How do you stop house guest from damaging your speakers?


Over the years I have had many adult guest coming to my house and curious about my speakers though I never mention to them I’m an audiophile. Most of the time they will lean close to the speaker, looking at the driver, maybe occasionally touching the cabinet or knocking on the cabinet. But in other times I’ve had guest touching drivers gently as well and I usually just tell them to stop to prevent them from damaging the driver when I see them doing that.

Yesterday I had a little sit down with a few guests and one of them wanted to play my Blade 2. Out of nowhere, while the music is playing he stood up and walked to the speaker and knocked on the side driver woofer and asked “are these speakers too?” It was probably 3 or 4 consecutive hard knock on the woofer while the woofer is playing, and you guys can already imagine my facial expression. I don’t want to blame the guest as the blade’s woofer doesn’t look like regular woofer and I can’t expect guests to have knowledge of how not to damage speakers, but man, that really hurts when I saw that happen.

I inspected the driver afterward and it seems like all is good and the driver survived. I don’t remember if I heard distortion while the music is playing but to my knowledge this would easily fall into the abuse category for an audiophile.

I’m wondering, do I attach a label to say do not touch on those drivers? Do I tell guests not to physically touch the speakers? 

bwang29

Keep the grills on. If it’s an Adult tell them "please don’t touch anything it’s all very expensive" If it kids tell the parents to tell them leave the stuff alone if the room is able to be closed off do so lock the door.  Portable Dog gates also work well, seriously. Lastly tell the parents if your kid breaks anything you will have to pay and  it's going to be expensive , give them an example ...if the people or parents get miffed throw them T F O.. 

An exposed loudspeaker dome is asking for it.

Especially when its a tweeter.

At the very least it’s being provocative.

Pushing buttons is something we’re all brought up to do.

A difficult habit to resist for most non audiophiles.

I’ve even heard some people say how much they want to push them in.

So, unless it’s protected by a wire mesh (great idea) you’re better off leaving the grille securely in place.

Especially when it’s a very expensive alloy dome.

Sometimes it’s good to take precautions, as I remind my nephew who refuses to get a case for his super slippery Samsung phone.

He’s on his 2nd screen now and that’s also broken.

Put “Do Not Touch” tabletop sign(s) out near speakers with small print indicating any person(s)  not adhering to the “No Touch” policy assumes liability for any damages incurred!

If someone would have touched my Joule Electra VZN100's, I wouldn't have to say anything. Of course they wouldn't have been able to hear me against the own screaming. 

Had to eventually sell them as I was worried my little guy might seriously hurt himself even though he knew what those huge glowing tubes meant. Hell, he loved slowly turning that big variac till the meter read good. Budding audiophile...

We had friend guests over for a weekend. At the end of that weekend I had a punched in phase plug on a mid-woofer. I looked at the teenage girl and said it was her, why, because you just know. I take paper and tape it around the speakers in my HT room.

No one is allowed in my high-end room.

A good musical experience is one of the purest and most genuine human experience. It's hard to explain to people that haven't experienced it. But some of us audiophiles know this and develop a bond with our gears especially our speakers. Like man and dog. Or you can say, our companion. 

It's not to be touched when not necessary. Not many can understand this. It's the same thing when people buy their brand new iPhones, they treasure it like a piece of gem. The different is some people stop caring after 2 weeks. Some never stop caring. 

Put a big ass "DO NOT TOUCH or COME NEAR" sign.

Imo some of the actions by the guests you mentioned are just rude, adults should know better. But my experience suggests some people just love to touch at things that are new to them. 

This hobby and owning gears has really taught me to appreciate beauties with just my eyes. 

I just make sure to tell my guests to please not touch the speakers.  Do not set things on the speakers.  And please, just leave the speakers alone as they are for listening.  Its important to make expectations clear to guests.

@fatdaddy2 

it's probably one of the most egoistic hobbies, and the irony is that it doesn't have to be.

Many comments in this thread are absolutely devastating about us humans

Me me me. It's all for me.  I won't share. I don't care.  This way the hobby will die out after this generation.  Serves 'em right, them ignoramuses!

my solution is to have a dedicated listening room to which i keep the door closed when entertaining guests

in prior homes without the listening room i would discreetly ask guests to wear pet shock collars

Our adult friends of a certain age are very respectful, because that's the way kids were brought up back then. So no problems there. Their kids and grand kids on the other hand are clueless, non-respecting little %#*&'s ...you know what I mean. Very entitled, enabled and non disciplined. Since my (our) listening room is also the family room in the house, and I don't have a dedicated room for my very expensive gear, I drape a cover over my Kharma speakers before arrival. It doesn't look as pretty, but does the job. I'm not here to entertain you with my audio system and they are likely happy listening to their Bose at home. So no more cartwheels in this room, OK?

Friends are over rated. Get rid of them. Your Audiogon family is all you you need.😃.

I let my 5 yo boy adjust the volume on my integrated. Even if his hands are a little dirty, the Pass cleans up nice.

Only allow close friends and trusted family members in your listening room. Or fellow audio ethusiasts....

My speakers they have external foam Cover I made wrap with a nice fabric that match my room color.No hassle just remove them when I play.

@brianjm1   Nice post. Great observation on the 'grin'. I'm lucky; I still get them.

Some really great responses here! By now, most of my friends, and all of my family know that my stereo equipment is precious to me, so I’ve had no incidents in a long time thankfully. Anyone new to the house that doesn’t know, I politely tell them that the stereo stuff is delicate, and valuable to me. If they ask questions, I tell them about it, if they don’t, well that’s fine, they got the point about not touching. I’ve gone through having kids, and grandkids, and the message gets passed down from older to younger, generation to generation 😂 .. I’ve always refused to have a separate closed listening room. I want to share my love of music with my family. Plus, my belief is that it’s better to educate rather than isolate (I do have an acrylic cover for the turntable.. just in case!). It was a great experience watching my kids, and now my grandkids dancing in my living room with the system playing (they know to not dance near the speakers and turntable!). There were incidents in the past though…

the problem I have is the people that race  over to touch the tubes when they discover I have a  tube stereo,and have no idea what they are looking at

33 yrs ago I owned 1 ohm Apogee Scintillas in my great room. Loved them! A friend brought his 4 young kids over for a cookout. I found one child laying in his side, kicking the bottom of the woofer ribbon repeatedly. Surprised to see no damage because all that protected the aluminum panel was a thin nylon sock. His parents thought that was amusing. I didn't. I let him live to see his 7th birthday. I did build a home with a separate listening room that nobody accesses without my permission, with limited seating. I love sharing listening sessions but not too much with non-audiophiles - usually they don't care to know how to listen; don't want to be taught, and will find the most critical musical moment to talk to anyone who is actually listening. It ruins the experience, but everyone get a chance! BTW, my current Apogee Divas are 32 yrs old, refurbished by Bill Thalman in VA 7 yrs ago, have never had any evil beset upon them! Superb speakers! Apogee made great equipment, and for classical, jazz and folk listeners nothing beat them IMHO. Happy listening!

Sounds like some of your friends behave like ill-mannered children. Replace them.

Audiophiles why don't others enjoy this hobby? Same audiophiles you must sit centered don't move and don't touch anything. No wonder audiophiles are lonely.

+1 for Uncledemp

I'm happy for anyone to come in and listen, choose what to play, etc.  But I do ease a little bit closer so I can intervene if anyone starts to reach for anything.  Especially the little kids.  Every room has at least one complete system.  No dedicated listening room.  Every room is for living and for listening.  Music is all over the house almost all of the time.

I have specially sewn covers that fit over the grills and cover the whole speaker,

I leave them in place when I feel insecure about the company I have.

Play music or not the guests don't seem to care but I worry less.

Now my male dog will mark everything if I am not around so we employ

blankets to complete the look. 

 

I remember i just got these new pair of dynaudio birdseye maple monitors...they were amazing to look at and hear.Well one day my boss descided to stop in un announced over to my apt.He walks in as im listening to my speakers and was imppresed by them and starts grabbing one to look at with his cars keys in his hands rolling and turning looking at it...How do these stay on these (stands) putting it back spinning it a little.I told him wtf...these arent circuit city.He heard about it.😠

@jrosemd 

Funny. I was looking on the local Craigslist and actually noticed a pair of Maggies for sale as "room dividers". Cost was $25.00.

I contacted the owner and explained exactly what she was selling.

Needless to say, she was very appreciative of the call.

james633

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alberto4321 20 posts

 

Simply put a do not touch note everywhere before guests arrive


Yep on both counts ….and ensure that the speaker grills are firmly attached before they arrive.

On a prophylactic basis, you can also put up a sign in front of the system rack to get their attention first that this equipment setup is a seriously setup and keep,your mitts OFF …..

 

along the lines of, say: 

Due to the increased cost of ammo, warning shots will no longer be given. Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again,

@bwang29 

Unfortunately, having a dedicated listening space is no longer an option for me.

Divorce and the $1,500 sq. ft. cost of real estate in downtown Vancouver have made that untenable. 

That being said, the potential for damage to your more delicate possessions is more dependant on the person themselves, rather than whether they are audiophile-friendly. Some people just don't get it. Regardless of what it is.

If they have small children or large untrained dogs, well the risk factor is increased exponentially. 

 

Sharing music via quality audio equipment is one of the coolest experiences you can have with friends. It's so fulfilling to see a a pal sit in the sweet spot and actually "hear" their favorite song for the fist time! You can tell when they are audibly aware of everything they've been missing...their eyes light up and the corners of their mouth crack into a grin...and you have done your duty as an "audiophile." It's all about sharing the passion! 

Now, to get on with a useful answer to the original question of, "How do I tell visitors not to touch my stuff without sounding like a condescending a**hole?"

When you're ready to start the session, you can say with a smile and in a jovial way something like, "At risk of sounding like a condescending a**hole, you must be made aware of the following. Do Not touch anything. LOL (actually laugh out loud here). I know you would never do that, but you'd be surprised at what people are capable of. Nobody has done it here, cause our friends aren't morons, LOL, but I've heard horror stories of guests accidentally breaking people's gear. Anyway...getting that close to the speaker doesn't do anything for the sound. For the best experience, you want to be here (point to your seat in the sweet spot). Get cozy, you're going to love this."

As they take a seat, say something like, "Tell me the fist song that comes to your mind in 5,4,3,2,1." When they blurt out a song, don't second guess it, just pull it up on your streamer and push play. I find this method more entertaining than putting people on the spot for their favorite song or album or artist. It's fun to discuss those things, but the "go with your gut" moment is a fun way to get things started.

Never start with your favorite song or artist or album...this only makes you seem like a condescending a**hole. I like to let people listen to their first song, and then say, "Ok, what's next?" Usually, they have been thinking of the song they really wanted to hear while their listening to the first song. 

If you have multiple guests who want to listen, the next person will have their pick ready. And the next. And the next. I find it fun to go from guest to guest for each subsequent song. It's a great way to get exposed to cool music I would never hear on my own and it keeps guests engaged and interested. As they realize the true potential of your system, the song picks get more and more curated. Meaning, the guests put a lot of thought into a song that will have it's full potentially become an absolute revelation when it's piped through your gear. As we go from one person's to another's pick, I make sure to include myself in the rotation. This is where I drop in some mind-blowing, ear-awakening gems.

In these moments, it's fun to enjoy some whisky, wine, beer, or whatever your social lubricant of choice may be. Turning what is often a solo experience into one that can be shared and enjoyed with friends is very rewarding and I find that people want to come back!

Congrats! Instead of becoming a condescending, audiophile a**hole, you are now the life of the party. And your gear is safe ;)

Cheers.

 

Many of us don't have dedicated listening rooms. We have living rooms or large dens that have to serve the purpose. These rooms are where guests (and their kids) will be when they visit. 

I'd advise to leave speaker grilles on at all times when you either aren't there or have guests over. 

The main issue is of course the turntable, cartridge, and tone arm.  Just too tempting to some. An idea a friend of mine did was to get a nice, stained wood box cover to put over the whole thing when not in use to keep it out of sight. And when most guests come over, play CDs, not albums.  Just not worth the risk whether your turntable costs $600 or $6000. Just the aggravation factor alone would be well, bad. 

Wondering if any of you have had any guests get burned by being clueless enough to touch some KT88 or other tubes on your amps or integrated?  At least once should be enough for most people. 

I suppose we should keep a cage in place, but really, we shouldn't HAVE to. Ugh.

If the speakers are so easy to damage that simple touch does so their design is defective. I have horns that are nearing 90 years old and kids can climb in them. I also have new horns that kids can climb on. I have mastiffs and I have no worries anything will be damaged. I actually want guests to touch the large speakers they are very tactile. 

 

In the 40 years I have owned moderately high end equipment I have had many people in the room, and have never had one of them touch anything.

Don’t have dipshi*ts house wit. 
 

many many years back, had 2 pair Polk ls90

left for a week, returned home to numerous blown, over driven drivers.

managed to save and make 1 good air , which I gifted to my cousin, a huge Polk fan, was ecstatic.

 

be careful who watches house.

played some Ganesha rap, with Polk ls90s, yup, destroyed them.

 

  Punk kids, eat a di*k

 

  nowadays, NO ONE, ….NO ONE WATCHES HOUSE, ONLY A CLOSE FRIEND, WHO I TRUST AND IS ALSO AN AUDIO GUY,, and has no parties and is responsible.  
 

  Cousin still enjoys the so 90 pair, which were a great speaker, and I miss them,

 

caution.

 

most my friends just listen, you always have the one moron,…….

 

now a days, all know do not touch, touching ones audio system is a no no.

 

other audio buds, k ow me, and I explain upon entering home, I ask, may I add a few clicks to volume? I’m respectful of audio gear. Most should be too

I have Magnepan 3.7i;s in my living room.  They are tan fabric with oak side panels.  A long time ago, I lost count of the number of women who saw them and commented to me, "What beautiful room screens."

Great post!  Except for my wife and a business partner, my audio room is off limits.  A quick test – mention an esoteric product name (not mass market) and observe the reaction.  Blank stare – keep close counsel and change the subject.

No one ever gets close to the tubes....and my speakers have no removable covers.

The worst I've experienced is when a friend actually was paying attention when I remarked how loud my system can get.....he picked up the remote and cranked the volume. (My guns were unloaded and in their cases.)

Other than ear pain, no harm done.  However, I won't play it around that "friend" again, and I dang sure won't boast about that aspect of my system anymore!