Love my ipod, Hate my ear buds....


As on old time audio guy, who just got my first ipod. I know, I know...so I'm a little slow...not thrilled with the phonics, but enjoy the portability and interface, but, HATE, HATE the ear buds, extremely uncomfortable and so sensitive to exact placement...
So I thought I ask my friends here who must have struggled with this already. If I want this for easy portability ie slip in my inside pocket (so no bulky head phones), what options have you found that are comfortable, small and sound reasonably good.

I thank you in advance for your suggestions.
seric56
second ptmconsulting--koss porta pros absolutely rule. the sporta pros, which have the same drivers but a sealed back design, don't sound as good.
If you are willing to spend the money - The JH custom made for your ear are the best IEM I have found: http://www.jhaudio.com/

Getting a mini portable Amp from Ray Samuels also makes a huge sonic difference. http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com

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Best Regards,
Larry
Another vote of support for Etymotic Research. They sound great and are very comfortable for people with any sized ears. Cheers,
Spencer
I was in your exact situation about 6 months ago. Couldn't keep those damn stock Apple 'phones in my ears more than 5 minutes before the pain outweighed the music, which itself added to the pain as the sound quality was awful (goes without saying). After doing a little research the Sennheiser CX500 seemed to get good reviews, and after finding them online at B&H Photo for 60 bucks I took the plunge. I haven't compared them to anything else, but I can keep these things in my ears for hours with no discomfort and the sound is nicely balanced and refined. A huge step up from the stock iPod headphones in every way. They also have a neat little slider volume control on the cord that sometimes comes in handy when it's not convenient to grab the iPod and work the wheel.

Best of luck.
My favorites have been Westone UM2's (with the Shure "black foamie" tips). The Westone family sound seems to be head and shoulders more natural and refined than the earphones of other companies, IMHO.

Now the Westone 3 has just been released in the past couple of weeks. WOW.

I've got a pair of Westone 3's at home and they are just a bit more neutral top to bottom, more extended in the treble while still refined, and more detailed in the bass while still very deep in bass.

Overall it seems a very noticeable incremental improvement top to bottom, while retaining the very natural and musical family sound.

I've tried almost everything out there and I think that for the audiophile who is sensitive to natural and refined sound, the Westone 3 or UM2 are best.

Also Westone seems to make the most comfortable in-ear earphones, which is a MAJOR issue for many people with these types of phones.

Art
I have a pair of Shure Se420 which I then upgraded to the Shure SE520. I like them both, although if I had to do it over again I would have gone straight to the SE520, they are just that much better.
I've had Shure e4cs for the last year and I've been very, very happy with them. They could use a tad more bass but overall they sound very good (and I've got 3x12" in my HT, so touch more bass may just be me :)).
One nice thing about the Shure IEMs is that the cord goes up and around the back of your ear (I'm sure some other brands do this too). Once you put them in they stay and you don't get a lot of noise when the cord is bumped. I had the Etys and they sounded really good but when you bumped the cord (which is a lot if you use them when you are moving around) it made a lot of noise you could hear and was distracting. The Shures don't do that. Also the seal would come loose on the Etys as well requiring pushing them back in often.
I had the same reaction when I first got an ipod. My first pair of upgrade phones were the Shure e3C which sounded good but never were quite comfortable no matter which eartips I used. I recently replaced them with Klipsch Custom 1's which are more comfortable because of the oval-shaped tips. The Klipsch bass is not as deep as the Shure's, but the comfort is worth the change.
The new Nuforce headphones are under a hundred bucks and very nice; they retired my Etymotics, which i always found tough to get in the ear properly anyway. might be just my ears though...
Sony is the inexpensive version of shure or sennheiser. For $50 you will be much happier. These fit inside your ear, don't fall out, you won't have to worry about placement and are quite comfortable.
I have the Shure E2C and they sound pretty darn good. I imagine their new 530s are the cat's ass. If you can afford 'em, go for it. Otherwise consider the 2s, or 3s, or 4s...

-RW-
I second the Shure SE530. They are easily driven by the ipod alone (no headphone amp needed) and they are comfortable for an IEM. There are other options (like the Ultimate Ears) but some of the them need a headphone amp to sound good.
Since you didn't include the word affordable...

Ultimate Ears UE-11

expensive but well worth it.. to me.. much better sounding than the Sure SE530.

It is an investment. But hey, you're worth it! U definitely won't regret it. (i've also had the ER-4P, SE500, and UE-5, as well as Sennheiser sd-600, and Stax electrostats)
Marry any of the sugggested phones with custom ear molds especially made for the earphones you like. I have ER-6's with custom molds and the package sounds great. Most audiogist's can do the molds and should cost about $100.
The Etymotics and the Shures are certainly going to be the best, but they are pricey.
I have the Sennheiser MX75 Sport phones, which have a unique "twist to fit" design so they remain tightly fitted in your ears and have very good sound. List is $50, but they are available on the web for less than $40.
The pads can be changed to fit your ear.
Again, probably not the quality of sound as the Etymotics or the Shures, but a darn good phone at the price.
Do you just not like having these earphones inside your ear or are you looking for other similar in-ear earphones? I know some people don't like the feeling of having these things inside their ears. I've seen some headphones that are designed for portability, so they can be folded and should be able to fit inside your pocket. But most of these are only available in Asia.

I started out using a pair of Ety ER-4S with a portable amp with my Cowon iAudio X5. That turned out to be a pain in the rear trying to juggle with all the pieces at the airports. I ended up ditching the amp and connect the Etys straight to the unit. But that sounded bright, and bass shy. I've since replaced the Etys with a pair of Shure SE530. They work fairly well, and sound fairly good without using a separate amp.

FrankC
I have JBL Reference 220 for my iphone. Sound is decent though not spectacular. Price is reasonable. Have read good things about the Etymotic but couldn't bring myself to shell out the $160 for them