Bully pulpits


It’s pathetic that so many alleged audiophiles use a hobbyist site like Audiogon as a bully pulpit to express political or conspiracy opinions. Thank you for spoiling so much of what an enjoyable hobby forum used to be. 

hhscott

Cindymeat has made 311 post in 10 days...

 

Is she attempting to beat Millercarbon's record?

 

DeKay

@tony1954 

Here, Here! "Old bald guys" unite! Even the non-lonely ones!

And to all, please, for the love of sanity, read the first 5 words of the 1st Amendment before yapping about "free speech" and "1st amendment rights" on a privately owned forum. C'mon, it's only 5 words...

Stepping off the soapbox, stumbling from a gimp knee...

@tubebuffer     

"Most these guy old bald guy that lonely and find comrade in forum."    

As an "old bald guy", I resemble that remark.

Would you like to buy a kidney? I got a fresh pair on ice. The problem is they are still attached to the guy in the freezer. You get a discount on multiple organs. The only thing different is they had sex reassignment. They went with "Gender Neutral" certain parts are not available. We accept Pay Pal there is a 3% fee though..

We are also looking for YOU. If you're down on your luck, the wife has left you and the kids are all strung out on huffin' glue. We can help you out, with what we like to call "Options". We can have that money to you before they put in that last staple.

We are an equal opportunity employer. 

Here is how I apply politics to all of my purchases. I try to avoid buying products from any country that has an active murder for organs program. I try to purchase as many products as possible from my country as it does not have a murder for organs program. 

Keep the gifs coming, nonoise!  Love 'em!

Beats trying to engage staff-level cultists in meaningful conversation.  When there's clearly zero attachment to objective reality, what is one to do......?

Your earlier observation about zero shame/embrace of same was spot-on, btw.

So it's the timing that upsets you and leads you to come to this conclusion?  Notice how you cleverly tried to maintain neutrality by saying it doesn't matter which side one takes. Sounds like you were looking for an excuse to get your licks in.

As for me, it was applauding the tone and temper of the post, which seemed to put an end to this exercise until you posted so negatively.

All the best,
Nonoise

Well I think everyone should check out those on this forum that comment immediately when a political comment is made. Either to condemn or support. Often those that complain most about political tangents on an audio forum are the first to keep these posts going. 

I once drove by a church reader board that stated: “A good friend stabs you in the front.”  This message velcro’d itself to my brain and became a useful tool more than once in my professional and personal lives.  Sometimes “good friends” tell you things you don’t want to hear.  “Good friends” also make it apparent where they are coming from, as well as clearly stating their intentions.  “Good friends” are always just that.   No need to overthink the definition of a “good friend” – it IS what it IS.  Someone with genuine respect and affinity for you as a human being.  And vice versa.  In an ideal world, forums such as these allow for spirited discussions among “friends.”  We absorb, postulate, share, mentor and contribute to the well-being to all those who attach themselves to the group.  And, yes, sometimes things appear to be so conflicting to our current knowledge base that we feel a strong compulsion to offer emotionally charged opposing viewpoints.  I think we know when we’ve crossed over from discussions “among friends” to those comments and considerations that are intentionally abrasive.  Are others gaining from of having you attached to the discussion?  Or am I just trying to make this more about “me”, and less about “them?”  Yes, I enjoy releasing my inner 9-year-old while doing a smokey burnout in one of my hot rods.  However, I found that’s a pretty good idea to let my passengers know what they’re in for and ask permission before dumping the clutch.  (My grandson, when treated to such an experience never wants to ride in one of my prized hot rods again).  Some of us should consider if/how our comments benefit the forum before “dumping the clutch.”

 

A few months back, I had a little windshield time, turned on the AM radio and tuned to an old-time comedy radio program.  It went something like this:

 

Host: “We’re going to do a math quiz.”

Guest: “Okay”

Host: “What’s 6 plus 6?”

Guest: (pause, no answer)

Host: “Well, it’s 12.”

Guest: (excited voice) “6 plus 6 CAN’T be 12!  8 plus 4 is 12!!!”

 

The lesson here (for me) is that there can be more than one correct answer to a problem.  Yes, people CAN be quite confident in their ability to hear differences in things.  And, yes, people CAN be quite confident that they can attach their known science to a particular problem and have absolute certainty to the voracity of their conclusions.  As one person recently stated when asked about how to handle politics during the Holidays: “Let your friends be wrong!” Pretty good advice?

 

Related to the scope of this forum:  We’re not youngsters and have a finite number of clicks remaining on the clock.  Tangents are not harmful, just not the best use of time.  Politics and religion?  Then, how about superchargers vs turbochargers?  The value/performance aspect of wines from Argentina?  Quilting?  Ingrown toenails?  How ‘bout we keep things (as close to) high performance audio as we can, please.  Tick, tick, tick ….

 

I’d like to close by acknowledging the value of forums, like these.  They are essential in sustaining the viability of high-performance audio.   In my part-time “gig” at YOUniteUSA, I deal with unapologetic, fire-breathing partisans on a daily basis who really enjoy breaking things.  I have come to value the links and connections that keep us “human” and work pretty hard to sustain our existing links while putting some effort into establishing new ones.  There are calculated efforts above our “pay grades” to break those links and connections thus my/our motivation to acknowledge, validate and celebrate our common links and connections.  We’ve spent more than a little effort in to categorizing those links.  This group, for example, fails into our “shared indulgences” category, which is at the tier just below “purposeful bonds” and above “navigating complexity”.  So, what we are doing HERE matters.  More than you think.  I hope everyone who contributes in a way to helps preserve these efforts congratulates themselves and acknowledges their role in keeping this thing going.  And, I hope those who want to invalidate this forum and it’s contributors, finds another forum.  I heard the Ingrown Toenail forum is looking for outspoken, miserable participants.

 

Thanks to all of you for what you do to make this forum possible.  And, the OP for providing the stimulus of this discussion.

 

 

 

 

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The allegorical significance of the Melon GIF is perfect for this thread.

Well played.....

I’ve owned the Nordost QX4 and QB8 together with Frey 2 cabling and it added a vibrancy and 'your are there' perception to my system. A few times my wife and I had our kids turn the QX4 off and in a blind test and we both heard the difference 10/10 times. It is very expensive for a return that you might get with component upgraded depending on what you have now..

Haven’t tried fuses yet. I trade a fair bit of gear as part of the journey so to drop a few hundred on fuses after a few hundred on tubes for something that I have a 70 percent chance of selling....That said I have excellent synergy now so I might, if I decide the synergy is more fun than the adventure.

I question your post placement btw, perfect place to bring up fuses?

Hello,

I recently found out I do have fuses inside my gear. Looks like I am going to try these new fuses. I have seen many peoples posts about them and I have a friend who always replaces the stock fuses in his gear. I have heard the difference on YouTube and I like the sound, but hate the cost. I know MC has done this too with great results. Another system I have been looking into is the Nordost Qpoint and QBase system. I know this is not cheap either but at least it’s something I can see and hear. Any one tried or owned the Nordost QPoint system?

@dabel 

Love the Vikings reference.
Haven't heard it in ages.

All the best,
Nonoise

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On that note, I've saved up my hard earned retirement money to get the new Technics SU-G700M2 when it come out (hopefully) this month. Some of the tech from the SU-R1000 trickled down to it and I can't wait to hear it.

All the best,
Nonoise

Hello,

I understand what the OP is saying, but it’s very hypocritical the way this thread started off. The way this thread starts off is exactly what you are accusing people of in this forum. I am not a fan of how people are becoming divided due to what is happening in the world. I can guarantee most people do not know what is happening in other peoples lives. We are on the brink of something far more serious than what someone said to another or how someone misunderstood another. There are a lot of bad things happening in the world to really good people. In the end. It’s better to come from a point of weakness than a point of strength. Nobody ever thinks Superman needs help. When it comes to helping someone out in need, there are millions of people ready to be a hero. All you need to do is ask. That means try not tell people what to do. They typically stop listening. 
How about we discuss if anyone has heard of some really cool products coming out in the near future. I know there are some serious people who have the 411 on some cool stuff. Should I be saving up my money?

Not sure the bullies as critical to this what ever it is as the pulpit part of OP.

 

Bullies are a dime a dozen. Bullies speaking from the pulpit is the menacing part. Recall historic churches with the high pulpits, preacher closer to God, high above the congregants. I now observe pulpits reaching for the heavens, sermons on the mount, stone tablets engraved with a thousand commandments.

 

How can so many people know the truth? As for myself, l'll believe the first guy who can part the seas and spin the earth backwards, must do both at same time.

Nah, they need to keep the media imbed feature as it’s working wonders. Just look at all the whining being done about it. It’s one thing to banter in print but to park them in the cheap seats with a caption is.......priceless!

dabel, thanks for the props.........I think. 🤔

All the best,
Nonoise

Maybe Tammy might want to reconsider the media embedding feature that was recently introduced.

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If you stop that video just right you can see the melon exploding in spectacular fashion.

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It bring tear if sad to my eye to hear people bully on site. Most these guy old bald guy that lonely and find comrade in forum. No think bad people. Who bully they want bench press?

Blow up the dc cartel and global elites and we might be able to get back our world for we the people.

Now we're loud and proud anarchists. 
Great.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

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Don’t blame the rank-and-file. Blame the politicians who created the problems. You have to remember the job of a politician. First create an issue that will affect the most amount of people that it can. Then convince the people that you the politician is the only one who can fix the created problem. Then convinced the People you need more money and resources to fix the created problem. Then never fix the problem so we need more politicians and more money to fix the newly created problems that were never fixed to begin with.This is the basic structure of money laundering taxpayers money. They created the midterm elections so we are on a never ending election cycle. This has allowed them to inject themselves into every aspect of our daily lives. Blow up the dc cartel and global elites and we might be able to get back our world for we the people. 

And when you pay them no mind, they congregate, solidify their positions and wreck havoc on society.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke

Yes, even in an audio forum.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

 

 

 

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It's Jerry again have no idea what or whom you are referring to.

And you think my post was directed at you?

If I were I would have directed it at you @nonoise 

I think the OP is on point though.

Try and keep it civil. I am trying.

Have a great day.

 

 

So typical of jerry, or is it therealearlflynn, or is it skypunk, to miss the entire point.

All the best,
Nonoise

@hhscott 

Hey, you managed to get most of those you described in the OP to bite, only missed a couple...there is still time...the rest of the usual suspects will chirp in soon enough...

Enjoy...

Found this video of your family picnic.

Real rocket surgeons.

 

Have a great day.

I Robot.

Instead of posting something worthwhile... Why do you keep posting weird graphics? Or just insult people?

How do you know what I listen to or watch? Just because I don't agree with a lot of the stuff that you post?

I'm just using humor to embarrass the tools. Shame used to have some currency but now it's getting useless as they embrace it wholeheartedly. 

I've tried, in the past, to meet their arguments head on and it went no where and accomplished nothing other than ticking them off even more with them citing my posts as politically charged and/or inflammatory when it was nothing more than a response to theirs.

Case in point was a thread that was closed a few days ago. In it were lots of politically charged posts that I refused to engage in save for my use of humorous GIFs to shut them up with. This went on and on and on and not a single person complained of the politics. 

Then it got to where a certain someone started posting vulgar and tasteless GIFs and claimed to one up me. Mine was to say it wasn't a competition (agains with a GIF) and also not for the same reasons. His next was a GIF of Rump dancing spastically with "winning" across the screen so finally, I stooped to his level and posted one of Rump in a not so flattering way.

That's when they pounced. That 1st GIF supporting Rump was up for over half an hour with no one complaining but after my rebuttal, it tool just over 2 minutes and it was break out the smelling salts and get ready the fainting couch along with a hefty dose of I'm getting case of the vapors! There was indignation at the new system allowing such behavior and lamentations of my posts.

Do you see the hypocrisy at play? The one sided nature of it all from those who think this is their safe place and no one else can express themselves? That they're perfectly fine with topics of hate and slander as long as it's from their POV?

That's why I've resorted to the use of GIFs. Pictures can speak a thousand words and these are cretins that need some humor thrown back in their faces like a bucket of cold water on a misbehaving critter. I'm thick skinned enough to take it and so should any adult who professes to be one.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

@thecarpathian 

I wouldn't have to shout IF I could use larger letters. I wanted it to get attention. It worked. Just like deleting posts which disagree works. And if you think a bully just shouts, I suspect you have never encountered one. many of them never shout. No Bullys generally run with a pack that backs up the bully. Kinda like those who report posts which they disagree

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