Hi Fi Tuning fuses


Has anyone used or is using HiFi Tuning fuses to benefit sound. Is is worth it to use in Ayre preamp, Mark Levinson 532h amp and possibly Benchmark DAC? Thanks for respectable replies.
lnitm
Without doubt a very contentious subject but I will say that why should someone buy hyper expensive mains cables only to put in bog standard fuses . I have put in Blue fuses in all power plugs connecting my power cables to great effect. If you don't believe me then Synergistic give a 30 day money back guarantee so try them for a few days and then replace them with your old fuses. I don't think you will ce sending them back any time soon. Good luck and wiat till the trolls sniff out this thread.
Hey, Costco-emoji, Georgie Boy, ramtubes, mapman, bdp24, Sheepstalker, are you guys asleep at the wheel? Here fishy, fishy...🐟 🐟 🐟
This fuse rap is getting old there are dozens of fuse raps here.Hi Fi tuning is great jump on them asap!!
OMG! I forgot Flyboy! 
Geoff, you once again mischaracterize my position on the Hi-Fi tuning fuse. I am agnostic on the claim of improved sound, and have merely alerted tube amp users to what Music Reference's Roger Modjeski has said about their use in any DC circuit. He's agin' it ;-). As I said before, his full thoughts can be found on the now-dormant AudioCircle Music Reference Forum, for those who wish to read them. Got it now? ;-)
One of his favorite tricks: he imputes a belief to you, never stated or implied, then attacks you for it. 

Hello, Kitty!
Yes, I know your position and your defense of RG, your hero, that’s why I included ramtubes among the mossbacks. If you’re an agnostic the question is why? How can anyone be neutral on the subject of fuses or fuse/cable directionality these days. Laziness? 😃
All I have to do is type the word lazy and Joy Boy shows up. 
@OP, 
As you can see, this topic brings out 'the best' in people. Try not to get discouraged.
As far as Hifi Tuning fuses, Steve McCormack believes they do improve sound quality.
As for Ayre, and Levinson, I would call them directly and get their take on it. 
I only own Ayre equipment, but my experience shows changing fuses to have negligible effect.
Bob
Yes, I recently stepped into a hornets nest with this topic as I tried out my first Hi-Fi fuse - an SR Blue.  I felt it improved the dynamics in my Cary tube amp but only if installed in the proper direction! Placed the opposite way it degraded the SQ.  
Regarding that ONE incident, SUPPOSEDLY caused by HIFI Tuning fuses:  I repeat-    I’m looking forward to further evidence, of amps being damaged by, "high-end" fuses. Like I said, the Internet SHOULD be replete with the tales. One would think the Fuse Police, ought to have an easy time digging them up. Perhaps, AT LEAST ONE informed amp manufacturer(aside from our resident fuse cop), that warns against them in their owner manuals? No caveat emptor, in ANY reviews or magazine articles? Again, why would a correctly valued fuse(in voltage, amperage and time), as required by amp’s owner’s manual, be a danger to it’s DC circuitry?
Again(from the other fuse thread):  It seems, quite a few that frequent this site, value the opinions of the Stereophile Magazine writers. Personally, I would think, they’d be somewhat conscientious, as much as they value testing things, before recommending a product/tweak, in their reviews and follow-ups. ie: https://www.stereophile.com/content/hifi-tuning-fuses and https://www.stereophile.com/content/hifi-tuning-fuse-follow-may-2012 It appears, no one(as of 2012) told them, about all(ONE of) those amps(purportedly) being destroyed. I’d further have to think, that highly experienced sellers(ie: Music Direct, VH Audio, Parts Connexion, The Cable Company, etc), would have been made aware(by now), were there an issue, and avoided selling anyone's, "high-end" fuses(and any possible, attendant liabilities). There again: Just my own observations/opinions.   
Geoff the fuse troll is in rare form today folks. Are you listening to him yet?  That won't stop him.
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@rodman99999, the answer to your "why would a correctly valued fuse (in voltage, amperage, and time), as required by amps’ owner’s manual, be a danger to it’s DC circuitry?" question---a reasonable one, is exactly what Roger Modjeski (my "hero", according to Geoff ;-) provides in his writings on the subject of the Hi-Fi Tuning Fuse (brand name, not generic category). The Audiogon thread in which Modjeski discussed the fuse has been removed, but all one has to do to read what he has to say about it is go to the AudioCircle Music Reference Forum. Reading the related thread will provide the answer to your question; you will then never again need to ask it! If you aren’t willing to do that, I can only conclude the question was a rhetorical one.
One has to wonder when that strange incident with the HiFi Tuning fuse happened that RM constantly brings up on every audio website he can find. Was it 6 years ago? 8 years ago? 10 years ago? Is he obsessed. Are fancy fuses his White Whale? 🐋 Thar she blows! Shiver me timbers! Is RM the real fuse troll? OMG! Be that as it may Audio Circle is the perfect audience for his uh, point of view, as it were. Here, not so much. 😬
SR Black in my Perreaux R200i amp.
SR Red in my two Dacs.

Bargain prices for the improvements they provide.
Every since I replaced the fuses in my McIntosh 275 with wads of aluminum foil the sound is much more betterer.
As much as I love the sound of my Kinki EX-M1, I went and experimented with a PADIS fuse since accessing it is so darn easy.
The fullness now that accompanies the extraordinary sound of the Kinki is most welcomed. 

All of that for $25. And they're PSE, UL and SEMKO rated and approved (meaning worldwide). I even went back to the standard fuse (a low cost ceramic type) and tried a Brimar fuse but the PADIS was the clear winner by a large margin.

I personally don't see what all the hubbub is about when it comes to fuses: they work.

All the best,
Nonoise
@1988eldorado,

Add some wads of almuinum foil in your ears too, your MC275 is going to sound as good as MC2301 😉
Here comes the fuse police..........Those who have convinced themselves that the change to "audiophile" fuses and experienced audio improvements have probably exhausted all other methods to improve a system's performance. While not ready to admit shame of a wasteful purchase, it's normal to convince oneself that something good has happened. According to a common term.....psycoacoustics.
What really matters is that every human's perspective is different. Nobody can convince anyone else that what they hear is real or not. The purpose of fuses.....protection. Look further down the circuit chain to find possibilities of REAL results.

@bdp24 - As I’ve stated before, numerous times, IF that article is correct, WHERE’S THE EVIDENCE? That ONE incident can’t be the only one, CAN IT? You can take his word for it, but- I’ve personally been using HIFI Tuning fuses in my tubed amp, DC circuits, for better than 12 years now, without a problem, EXCEPT when the occasional tube went South, and the fuse DID IT’S JOB.  Far as I'm concerned, without corroboration, that article is, "rhetorical".
Here comes the fuse police..........Those who have convinced themselves that the change to "audiophile" fuses and experienced audio improvements have probably exhausted all other methods to improve a system's performance. While not ready to admit shame of a wasteful purchase, it's normal to convince oneself that something good has happened. According to a common term.....psycoacoustics.
What really matters is that every human's perspective is different. Nobody can convince anyone else that what they hear is real or not. The purpose of fuses.....protection. Look further down the circuit chain to find possibilities of REAL results.
Great. Another dime store shrink.

All the best,
Nonoise
I couldn't care less if the Hi Fi Tuning fuse: 1- does or doesn't provide better sound than Buss, Little Fuse, or any other garden variety brand; 2- does or doesn't possess the potential to make possible damage to an amp. I have no ambition to make the case for either 1 or 2, prove either, influence or change anyone's mind on the subject. I had no idea that simply to bring to the attention of tube amp owners the experience with the HFTF that Roger Modjeski reported would require, even obligate, me to defend, even prove, that report. Shows what I know!
@bdp24 - About that, "report": The concept is really quite simple/logical: You BROUGHT it up. Now, BACK it up!
Why does that concept not apply to those who report these miraculous improvements with fuses and power cables?
Great thread with links to a relevant study. Study shows those who buy into this nonsense tend to be of lower intelligence. 

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52023
Were they looking in the mirror? 

Let me see if I have this right.....

If, in a discussion about turntables, I post that John Atkinson has stated that he finds his Linn LP12 to better reproduce the timing element in music than any other table he has heard. And by dint of my posting what John stated it is therefore incumbent upon me to prove his assertion?

Well I’ll be; I did not know that.

If component manufacturers wanted folks to use aftermarket fuses... they would have the fuse easily accessible. As it is, most are a PITA to locate, let alone swap.
If frogs had wings they wouldn’t bump their a-- so much. If Judge Judy was 6’ 2’ she could have been a big basketball star. Woulda, shoulda, coulda! Amplifier designers are generally about two paradigm shifts behind audiophiles. Fuses is a perfect example.
Yes I’m sure us audiophiles are waaaay smarter than the amplifier designers🙄🙄
You’re not a good example. Yeah, like Chuck Audio Mart. 🤗 Audiophiles want tuna that tastes good, not tuna with good taste. 🐬
Sorry, tuna in a can is cat food. Not fit for Humans. IMO of course.                                  
I’ll take a nice fresh farm grown trout please.
But did you blind test the cat food tuna?
The assertion: HIFI Tuning fuses are a danger, to the DC circuitry of tubed amps. The issue: Thus far, NO evidence/coroboration, outside of one(purported) incident/report. All I’ve heard from the Fuse Police, are deflections and cop-outs.  IF these fuses WERE a problem, someone else, somewhere out there, would certainly have noticed by now!
The incident under discussion happened long long ago in a galaxy far far away. Too long ago to matter. Let’s move on. Frankly, I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if it wasn’t even true. Somebody’s got a bee in his bonnet 🐝 No big deal. Besides, gentle readers, even stock fuses have issues from time to time, you know, like blowing prematurely. 🔥 It’s not exactly a big secret. 🤫
@lalitk then I wouldn't have enough foil left to make my hat 🤣
its as simple as this....

If you have a type of system that will allow for it? Fuses will make a difference in what is heard. I have switched a few things around, and I was not be able to detect and fuse differences. That is why this debate never goes anywhere. Hearing it is totally system dependent.

Besides.. Not everyone desires to tweak their system to the point where these differences will be heard. They and find those talking about the benefits as a pain, because they are content with what they are hearing as is. To each his own.

Yes. Some in their system can hear differences. Others can care less and do not want to be bothered. They resist because they are happy with what they now hear and try to find reasons not to get curious. So, they will say someone who hears fuse differences is delusional to get the thought far from themselves. They simply do not want to be bothered. They do not desire the same thing from their audio system.

Those who hear fuse differences out to change out their power cords to regular ones and they may find they can not hear fuse changes.
I changed all 5 fuses
For all 5 power supply providers
At Marantz SA-11 S1
Exactly the same value
I did hear differences in width
 switch and hear right from the box  HIFI Tuning fuses

PART 1
The difference was, but not very significant, to say there was a change. As new
I returned the original I heard
I immediately changed
to new ones and there is a change AS IT WAS AS FOG ON OLD FUSE

PART 2
I put it on for a few days.NON STOP
And hearing ....comes back
I switched to the original I heard then with the HD800
And the BCL Leiman amplifier to HEAR  sound really differences

I stopped after   10 MINT  the original .

the audiophiles  HIFI Tuning fuses  played for a few days
The result is no doubt heard IN  HIFI Tuning fuses
A larger stage width
The depth of the stage is impressive and deep TON
And most importantly the height was more significant for example
Flutes that were heard earlier at 10  are now at 11 o'clock
The inner detail is greater
Each fuse goes to another significant part of SA 11 S1
On other devices, I did not make the change
 PART 3  4 WEEKS ON 
Well I put everything back to my original  FUSE and immediately heard that it was all without the same effect
I had in new fusions BACK  HIFI Tuning fuses TO MY SA-11 S1


Question: did you evaluate each fuse one at a time for directionality? With so many fuses direction of fuses is critical.
"that’s why I included ...... among the mossbacks"  @geoffkait , I haven't heard that term in ages! Brings back great memories. You must be a bass angler.

" I felt it improved the dynamics in my Cary tube amp but only if installed in the proper direction! Placed the opposite way it degraded the SQ."
@three_easy_payments, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
More like an .ss bangler.