You want your TT and “stereo” as close together as possible, and see how it sounds. Or, get yourself a secondary phono stage and put that as close to your TT as possible and run the RCA’s out form it to the Onkyo.
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As a temporary set up, if possible.
Place the Onkyo as close to the TT as possible and use a shorter IC.
Does Temporary arrangement require a Longer Speaker Cable ?
If it works you can then Try the Long and Short IC configuration.
Using a separate Phonostage, as already suggested, with the Onkyo will also offer other configuration options.
Yes, keep the TT output cable as short as possible. It’s carrying a very low level signal, and thus is more prone to noise and other issues.
On the other hand, the phono preamp out is "line level" and fine with a longer cable. I, too, prefer balanced connections if the gear on both ends supports them. If you can use them, you can have cables made up from Mogami W2549 cable and Neutrik connectors by a Pro Audio shop (if you are in the USA, ProAudioLA does great work) for about US$100 a pair or less, depending on length, of course. I found them far superior to $2000 "audiophile" cables.
That seems a bit too long. Typically 5 feet is considered max, especially if you are using an MC but you are ok with Ortofon Blue since it is an MM cartridge.
The MOST important factor in a phono cable is the shielding and the extra capacitance. When it is too long, the extra capacitance may cause it to increase the high frequency response (treble) to a point where it may be noticeable.
Voltage loss is not going to be too much of an issue since there is virtually no current flowing in the wire, since the input impedance of an MM phono amp is about 47k and a few extra ohms from the cable will not make that much of a difference.
However, try it and if it sounds ok, you are done, if not, try and keep it shorter.
Most brands of TT have less than 1 meter of cable coming from the cart. I would recommend Shiit Mani to start with. At $150 it is a really great product. From the Shiit Mani you can run the longer cable to an input on the Receiver. Do not use the “Phono” input if you are using a phono preamp like the Shiit Mani. You can use an empty RCA input like AUX, Tape, or VCR since these are usually open.
The effect of cable length is as a multiplier of the capacitance per foot of the cable. A typical MM cart has an ideal capacitive load for flattest response. You have to know the capacitance of the internal wiring of your EVO, subtract that from the target, and divide the result by15 to know what type if cable to use. Getting this info ain’t always easy. The recommendation of BJC LC-1 with an added ground wire seems pretty sound to me.
@lewm The TT is being shipped over now. Along with a Pro-ject phono box II. I wanted something to ground the connection, and by suggestion of the chat here; give the signal a little boost to the receiver. I’ve had the cables sitting there for a while, but now that I can see the pre-amp will take off at least 3 feet, i’ll most likely get a shorter cable!