If you want to get the best of your transport, try this.



http://www.symposiumusa.com/rollerblocks.html 

I had used these three roller blocks under CEC TL0x for 5 years about 15 years ago and now I am using them under Jay's Audio CDT2 Mk2.

There are two different balls. If you can afford, the super ball is recommended for more effect.

With these roller blocks, transport give higher resolution and sharper focus.

I think it's effect is more than good digital cables.

But I recommend combination of roller blocks and good digital cable to get the best of your transport.
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These Symposium Roller-Blocks are Outstanding and is what I use under all of my components to include my entire audio rack and I am using the Super Balls.

Wig
@wig

I had been using it just under CD transport for 16 years.

You have made more comprehensive use of it.
@ shkong78

Each set added improves transparency, focus, depth with a very natural and organic sounding presentation. Tried other footers but they didn't sound natural to me.

Wig
@wig

Each set added improves transparency, focus, depth with a very natural and organic sounding presentation. Tried other footers but they didn’t sound natural to me.

Wow I noticed the same effect on transport.

But i had not tried on other component.

I shall try that under Dac or amp in near future.

Thomas
Roller bearings are excellent. Roller bearings in combination with springs is out of this world. What roller bearings lack, springs provide in spades - vertical isolation.
@ geoffkait

If you invent such thing, it may sell well.
Forgot to mention that I am using Maple platforms and Symposium Svelte Shelves as well, a bit redundant but it is quite effective.

Wig :)
@wig



I also use Symposium shelf to good effect.

They are making nice products.
GK.

What is your product, the roller/ spring combo?

Can you post a link or email to me.
My idea was the roller spring combo. I supply the springs, you supply the rollers. I’ve only been doing this for twenty years. Most people still don’t know there’s six directions of isolation. 
Used a Svelt shelf with great results under my 47 Labs Flatfish now using one under my Sparkler S503 player with the same positive improvements.

chris
As with the digital cables you mentioned, this is all BS. Any decent CD player/transport will not be effected by vibrations, they have skip protection for a reason, it will sound pristine even during an earthquake.

The fact that it states “enhances... video resolution”, so are they saying using these vibration damping balls somehow upscales video to 8K or increases bitrate? Such stereotypical audiophile marketing.
@mzkmxcv would you care to explain how the laser can accurately track the disc when it's vibrating excessively?
@jtcf

Buffer with skip protection. Do you have an issue playing a CD on a modern-ish car (many current models don’t have them anymore) while driving? No? Then why would a CD player with minimal vibrations in a home environment be worse?

You can literally drill a hole in a CD and no data will be lost, lots of technology is in place to make sure a CD/DVD/Blu-ray is read correctly.

Oh, and before you suggest, a CD knows if it’s not reading correctly due to vibrations and whatnot (that’s how skip protection is able to work), so no vibration-altered data is present in the buffer.
Oh, we were talking about car CD players? Bring back the Walkman! 🏃🏻‍♂️
I did!
It is in my main rig right now, sitting on three little rubber feet ( $0 from my stash).
And tbh it sounds way better than it did in my second rig so some good synergy going on right now.
Again thx GK!
You should try it with NDM. 
@mzkmxcv the CD may not skip and it will be listenable when the player is subjected to vibration.But it is definitely not able to track accurately and there will be missing information.It's been demonstrated,measured, and proven time and again.We can all enjoy discmans,car stereos,and boomboxes.But to hear all of the information on a disc we try to eliminate all external interference we possibly can.It is measurable and easily heard when using decent well made cabling and steps are taken to eliminate vibration.It doesn't take $$$ to achieve it.
sk78... from my experiences some footers can be a hit or miss.  I would not say that it’s better but different in sound quality.   To me some system could benefit from it to others it will not.   My system did not benefit from it.  
@jtcf

But it is definitely not able to track accurately and there will be missing information.It’s been demonstrated,measured, and proven time and again.


I would love a link. 
 
Then what do you say to the people that rip their CD’s (most using the ones in their computer) and use checking software to make sure it’s bit-perfect?
Getting back to the OP's reason for this thread, here's another similar way that is less expensive but seems to do the same thing:
http://www.ingress-engineering.ca/products-and-services.php

All the best,
Nonoise
@zipost

All the tweaks are dependent on system and personal taste.

You have to try it in your system to find out yourself.

it may not work in your system.

This rollerblock had been around for 20 years.

I had been using it for more than 17 years.
The roller bearings are excellent for isolation in the horizontal PLANE 🔛 AND the rotational directions 🎡 around x, y, z axes but are rather timid in the vertical direction, which is a rigid connection, and which might actually be the most important direction. 🔝
@nonoise 

Interesting alternatives but.....
If only one half of the bearing is semi captive what is to stop whatever piece of equipment that is sitting on top of the bare bearings committing the audio equivalent of a Wal-Mart shopping trolley esque suicide?

I can just picture pushing a button on a CD player and the whole goes flying backwards skidding of the bearings!

Or am I missing something here?
@uberwaltz,
The site has been updated since I last viewed it and it used to have a top half captive piece as well. I'm assuming it was found to be not necessary or that what you imagine wouldn't happen.

If you think about it, you'd have to push really hard to move the unit and the bearing up and over the lip of the bottom piece, with force many times more than necessary. Anyway, I think you can still order more base pieces to use for the other half.

All the best,
Nonoise
Actually no, or at least I don't think so.
What I envisage is say the CD player just gliding along on the bearings until it slides off. The bearings do not move anywhere, just rotate in the bottom housing allowing whatever is on top to move easily and readily!

It is now just a variation on what we use to move heavy equipment around in factories.

I am a more confused as to how they can work without a top piece?
Well, they are cup shaped. It could be that the photos don’t depict how deep the cups are. They are convex. And as I mentioned, the older site showed top halves that matched the bottom halves with the ball bearing in between. If you are concerned about it rolling up, over and out of the cup’s lip, then you could ask for a top halve to ease your worries.

All the best,
Nonoise
Nope
Not worried at all about the bearing rolling out of the cup, think you may be missing my point.
With say all 3 bearings freely spinning in the bottom cup bases, anything placed on top WILL slide on those bearings very easily.
At least that is my take on it from an engineering point of view.
@uberwaltz I know what you mean.I tried an off brand similar to rollerbearings and the component did actually slide right off of the footers.It was a cheap "knock off" product though.The rollerbearings must be a much better design I'm assuming since so many people use and recommend them.
I have my components on sand platforms.
Final Daruma were the first to use the ball bearing type footers, they consisted of top and bottom cup with ball in the middle, the last edition was the Final Daruma 11/111 retailed for around 199 US Dollars which i have 2 sets of.
Symposium products are way over priced as are Stillpoints.
Townshend Audio Seismic Isolation Pods retail 99 gbp each are a spring based isolation footer and are much better than Symposium Rollerblocks and the Final Darumas. And as GK states cover the six seismic isolation vibrations, backwards, forwards, left, right, up and down.
Herbies Audio Labs Tenderfeet perform nearly as good as Townshend Seismic Pods at a much lower price and the component sits very tightly in place so you could never push it off.
If you want to hear your component at its best without the character/colouration of bearings buy Townshend Audio Seismic Isolation Pods. Max Townshend was one of the first engineers that understood the damaging effects of vibration ie The Townshend Seismic Sink hes latest Seismic Isolation products address the 6 Seismic type vibrations better ie the Seismic Pods, Seismic Platforms and Seismic Podiums. If you want the best bang for your buck then its the Seismic Podiums you need, they isolate your loudspeakers stopping unwanted vibration from travelling threw the floor and up into your rack and into sensitive equipment. and back up into the speakers also. Checkout on youtube Max Townshend explaining the damaging effects of spikes.
I have tried Stillpoints ultra SS and ultra 5s to isolate all components and speakers the overall cost was nearly 20,000 us dollars,
Symposium Rollerblocks isolating the hole system including speakers was approx 10,000 US Dollars.
Townshend Audio Seismic Isolation isolating all components and speakers Seismic Pods and Seismic Podiums was 5000 US Dollars.
Herbies Audio Labs isolating components and speakers Tenderfeet, Giant Roller Gliders and Supersonic Stabilisers was under 1000 Us Dollars.
Townshend Seismic Isolation was the most effective especially the Seismic Podiums which were the stars of the show and close behind was Herbies Audio Labs various products i found the Tenderfeet performed better with the Supersonic Stabilisers.
The Stillpoints were last but most expensive by miles i did not like the hard coloured sound they brought to my system second to last was Symposium Rollerblocks again costing multi thousands they also brought a hard colouration to the sound not as prominent as Stillpoints but still there. The Final Daruma 11 perform better the Symposium Rollerblocks at a third of the price.
Just my personal findings in my system cost of around 40,000 includes cables.

Symposium’s second Roller Block, named "Jr,", contains a top and bottom cup, circle-shaped with a diameter of just under 2". Symposium’s original Roller Block (still available) came as a single cup, rectangular in shape.

Ingress Engineering now makes three versions of their roller bearing (the company’s website pictures all models), the best two an improvement on the Symposium design (imo). The bowl is cut to a larger diameter, therefore being shallower will less steep walls, for a lower resonant frequency (I believe). The aluminum used is also the harder 7075, rather than the 6061 Symposium uses (as does Ingress in their original, bottom model). Their original model is still available, and like the Symposium Jr., consists of two cups.

Geoff is of course absolutely correct; roller bearings provide no low-frequency isolation in the vertical plane. Neither do spikes! Lots of people consider spikes and cones to be isolators, when they are in fact couplers (at very low---below 10Hz or so---frequencies). Don’t blame the messenger ;-) .

I have one set of the Townshend Audio Seismic Pods (under my Townshend Rock Elite table. Max Townshend, a very clever and creative designer and engineer, used the Pods as the suspension in the Mk.7 version of The Rock), and will be getting more; gotta sell one of my vintage drumsets : ( .

There is a huge difference in price between Townsend and Herbies for sure and if the Herbies were a close call to the Townsend I may try out a couple of sets of the Herbies Tenderfoot at about $60 for set of 4 opposed to $600 for set of four Seismic pods.

I can see the pods have way more to them and can actually be used as leveling devices as well but still a huge chunk of change difference.

Any body else used the Herbies Tenderfeet?
This is where I am with my system, just doing a little fine tuning. It sounds terrific right now and if I did not get any vibration or isolation thingees I would live happily ever after. But I think it would be good to give it a go. I appreciate the personal experience from select hifi. Uberwaltz I would like to hear experiences from others that would like to share with us here. Those that have used them, and under what circumstances did they worked better and not so good. Thanks
In my experience the Herbies tenderfeet provided sonic improvement but not nearly to the degree that the Symposium roller blocks or the Isoacoustic Orea isolators that I am now using. I’ve actually gone to using them both in conjunction with the Mapleshade 4” thick platforms and isoblocks since I already had them and I like their looks.....yeah, aesthetics while not the end all, do matter to me. 

The roller blocks are open topped and I have no issues with components sliding off......and yes, I bump into them all the time while tinkering. 

Geoff has me thinking that I should replace my isoblocks with springs to vertically isolate my maple platforms while the roller blocks or Isoacoustic footers provide horizontal isolation to the components. Maybe separating them like that isn’t recommended?

 Component>Symposium roller block or Isoacoustic Orea>Mapleshade platform>Spring>Rack>spikes>floor. How does that look isolation experts?
mac48025

Geoff has me thinking that I should replace my isoblocks with springs to vertically isolate my maple platforms while the roller blocks or Isoacoustic footers provide horizontal isolation to the components. Maybe separating them like that isn’t recommended?

>>>>You usualy have to separate them. That’ll work. 
My experience with Herbie's Tenderfeet has been both good and bad. They worked well with my older gear but they tended to muddy up the sound with my Marantz integrated and SACD player. I even tried their footers for speakers (monitors on stands) and got the same results.
Head scratching moment.

I found a slight improvement with some constrained layer damping pads from Les Davis Audio. They are very thin and easy to place under footings. https://www.lesdavisaudio.com.au/

All the best,
Nonoise
You cannot do better than mass on springs. Or as good. If you could, it wouldn’t have taken LIGO 20 years to be able to detect gravity waves. Hel-loo! But there are tricks to mass on spring. If it was easy everybody could do it.
Check ebay.co.uk there is a UK seller advertising Pods at 295 GBP you can also make an offer the seller has good feedback and ships worldwide.
https://www.supplyhouse.com/DiversiTech-MP-2E-EVA-Anti-Vibration-Pad-2-x-2-x-7-8?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu...

E.V.A. Anti-Vibration Pad, 2" x 2" x 7/8"

Box of 48 for $26.40. The best anti-vibration blocks around!!!
Steve
I have been using those under three of my TT for some time and cannot complain at all in relation to cost for effectiveness!
Like polishing a turd.  

Instead, just add a Synchro-Mesh reclocker and you will get 7psec of jitter no matter what transport you use, no matter what treatment you do to the disks, no matter what feet you put under the transport.  It will make any device a world-class digital source.  SM is more than $400, but the improvement is drastically better.

If you believe feet are a better solution than a really good S/PDIF coax cable, then you have tried the wrong cables.  Every cable should be 1.25m long at least and the coax terminated to BNC connectors, not RCA's.  Use RCA adapters when needed.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio
I've tried about a dozen different isolation/vibration devices, mostly high end types.  
I use mostly Stillpoints under my tube equipment and isolation transformer.  Which Stillpoint model was dependent on the component and often the Ultra Minis were best.
I also use Stillpoints under my TV cable box (what a difference), Bluray player (for the audio) and under my ADS speakers used for a video system (tightens the bass and imaging).  
I use a Townsend Sink under my VPI TNT VI.  A MUST! (VPI TNT feet are wholly inadequate)
I used a buckwheat pillow under my EAR 324 phono pre when I used it.  Buckwheat pillows are also a CHEAP and EFFECTIVE alternative to all the mainstream isolation/vibration gear, even if it isn't 100% as good as some, it does a good job at low cost (but not aesthetically pleasing).

You must try Machina Dynamica Springs. I have them under everything except my speakers. They isolate in all 3 dimensions, and are inexpensive
If I remember correctly one member swears by full Del Monte Fruit cans. I don’t remember if orange slices were better than pineapple, but it seemed smart to start with four, in case you got hungry, you could still hold your equipment up with three.

BTW, I use some Steve Blinn footers, but it looks like Steve is out of business.
Of all the food groups the best is Spam. Not too soft, not too hard. Spam, the Miracle Meat! 
Tempurpedic works way better than any lousy springs.
Y'all will laugh,but I did make some feet out of plastic butter containers packed tightly with sand.Yes they were very effective under tubed components:)From there I went with Bright Star sand platforms.Much more attractive.