Audioquest should be on your list. Lots of choices, but all perform above their price compared to other manufacturers. IMHO.
It is a combination of the power cords and the Hydras. Many recording studios use Shunyata and the movie scores for the Star Wars series were all done using Shunyata cords and conditioners. If it’s good enough for Luke Skywalker, it’s good enough for me! I am using a Mac 6 tube preamp and no hiss at all, even with the volume jacked up all the way.
N80, yes you. The minimization of " the noise floor " was discussed on the other thread, as a huge benefit of after market power cords, as you so well know. I am letting these guys know, before hand, who they are dealing with, as you might talk about the placedo effect, and suggest they might " think " they hear improvements, but are not, because of your psychobabble bs. I will no longer respond to you on this thread either. All my best, and Enjoy ! MrD.
Wow. Not sure how to respond here. Let me give it a try because I'm still interested in the answer.
First, I do not remember that part of the other thread you are talking about regarding the "noise floor". I may have missed it. So I'm not trying to rehash that aspect and I honestly do not know if minimization of the noise floor is the same thing one would hear when the speakers are not being driven.
Second, I did not introduce the placebo question in that thread.
Third, the question I asked in this thread was asked in good faith and I'm still interested in an answer. We may have a difference of opinion but no need to project sinister intent into innocent questions.
Fourth, there isn't any way to respond to me in that thread as I have left it.
Fifth, you gave me advice in that thread about changing cables and I said I would consider it.
So, in good faith, if you (or anyone else) wish to answer the question I have posed I would be happy to hear it and will not respond back to it in order to prevent any suspicion of naysaying or whatever else that might offend.
N80, this will be my last and only reply to you, here on this thread. I never suggested you are the one who first brought up the placedo effect. But, you sure obsessed over it, and ran with it, so much more than the individual who did initially bring it up. After all, you are the doc. No worries, though. Enjoy ! MrD.
I have a question regarding lowering the noise floor. How low should it be? In my case, I do not have any power conditioners, or high end power cords. I am using laboratory grade 14 gauge power cords for my systems which cost about $15 to $20 each. All my electrical outlets are commercial grade which were installed when my house was built. If i turn on all my electronics and set the volume to my normal listening level, I cannot hear anything with my ear up to the speakers. It is dead quiet. If I turn the volume up about 12 to 15 db above my normal listening level, I can hear a faint audible hiss from the speakers with my ear up to them.
It seems to me that the noise floor is pretty low. Is this a reasonable assumption or should it be lower?
Signal to noise ratio ( SNR ), is a measurement that compares the level of the signal ( in our case of our audio systems, the music ) to the level of background noise, usually expressed in decibels. The lower the noise floor, the better ( ime ). As one gets " higher end " in this hobby, assumptions are made that noise is still present, even if hiss or hum are not audible. Information retrieval is always greater when the noise floor is lower. This measurement applies to many other areas, other than audio. I hope this helps. Enjoy ! MrD.
I agree with mrdecibel in that power cords can reduce the noise floor. They have in my system using Oyaide's Tunami cords. Another great way to do that is to replace the standard outlets with audio grade outlets such as SR's. The benefit from this...In addition to it being less noisy, you'll notice more space between the instruments and better definition. That has been my experience.
@dangcaonguyen. The CJ Premier 140 was definitely a step up over the mono 12's in sq. If I remember correctly, the supplied cord on the CJs were 16 gauge, maximum 14, and were 8 - 10 ft. Why a few feet of ac cable at the amps input ( or at the input to anything ) makes such a difference is still a science I do not quite understand, although so many theories and explanations abound. What I do know is, I have " hotwired " bulkier, better shielded power cables for 40 plus years on gear ( before iec inlets ), and it has always improved the sq in so many ways. Happy new year, and Enjoy ! Always, MrD.
I will respond to this topic on this thread only one time! Only once I said! What I will reveal can save the new and experienced audiophile thousands of dollars. I’ve owned $20k looms of cable and I have good hearing! The best!
my advice and I will only say this one time on Audiogon. Don’t go hifi with cable with a low to midfi system. One more time as the crowd stands...don’t go hifi with cable on a low to midfi system.
example: 8k used speaker 5k electronics, 3k amp. Don’t be fooled and drop 5k on cables. Get a 6k amp and lesser cables. If you love the sound long time, sure work up to better cables and compare. 9 times out of 10 better electronics will sound better than equal money spent on cables. I see too many many people try to tame this or calm that or add air, etc. via a cable $$ dump instead of taking that money and investing in core components.
Not saying that they don’t matter but I’ve only seen 5% maybe 10% gains with cables on 60,000 to 100,000 systems. Please don’t chop me up on #’s you can put together a great sounding system on any budget, just saying.
Sorry OP that was a little off topic! The only I will add for the newbie or deep pocket chaser... don’t experiment with cables too grossly unless you have keeper electronics. I’ve rarely saved a pre or an amp that I didn’t love with an expensive power cord. Ultimately the quality that I didn’t like would rear its head again in another way. Don’t use power cords or any cables as band aids.
I’m never posting on this thread ever again!
To OP: First rule - do not associate $$'s with performance. Cables are about synergy with components - not about $$'s spent. I have found that good AC cords can have even more impact in a system than good speaker cables - but it's all about matching and personal preference - try lots of combinations, don't correlate price with performance and choose what your ears tell you is best.
I will ditto the recommendation from rsf - I have had very good experience with Audiomica cables. Currently using their top of line Consequence AC and speaker cables for couple of years now. They are a perfect match for my system and IMO provide outstanding performance at their price point.