Friend needs help


I have a close friend that wants to upgrade his stereo system.  He is old school and frugal.  Currently he has a Kenwood KA-501, which I bought in high school, many years ago, and gave to him after having it serviced.  He has Cerwin Vega speakers and B/W book shelves.  My question what would be a great integrated amp, with 3-5 inputs, a pre-out to add an amp down the road.  I am suggesting that he gets a WiiM Ultra streamer and get into the streaming game.  He is mostly a rock and roll guy.  He is leaving all of the decisions to me.  

speedysteve4

Strreophile had a description of the new Cambridge Audio EVO 300 that could be what he could use. Also a mention of price would be helpful. Parasound integrated would be another to consider and often times show up on the used market.

Budget would certainly help.  Would an integrated with internal streamer be of interest?

I immediately thought of Wiim Amp Ultra but it only has a sub pre-out.

How about the Outlaw RR2160MKII?

Sorry about that.  2000-2500, would be his range.  Prefer new, but I have bought many demo's and they are fine at half the price.  I'm thinking 100-150 wpc

The Wiim is great, I have one and so versatile.  Better than my more expensive streamer.  TV and HP amp hook up, which is where I am going to also hook up his tuner, if we don't have enough inputs on the integrated, and yes old dude still likes his tuner.  

Thank you for your help

Let’s start a bet, once old dude understands streaming. Will he still use a tuner?🚗


 

@mofimadness , + 2 on the Parasound HiNT 6. There are some listed used for $1700-2000. That would meet his budget and allow for a streamer. I’m a classic rock guy too. I stream Tidal and Qbuz , but I often stream the free radio channels like Radio Paradise and Dot 1 FM. I’m laying here listening to Slade on one of the channels now. His CV’s are fairly efficient but us old rockers are bass heads and that Parasound has plenty of power. Maybe someday he’ll acquire a hand me down subwoofer. 😆 He’ll never outgrow that amp. Happy Hunting , Mike B. 

Good one Mr. Kelly.  To clarify, I should have said old school not old dude, we are 64, not super old.  But he is old school for sure.  No email on his phone, only checks email on the weekends, and still writes checks to pay his bills.  He still works, builds kitchens for high end dining. 

I like the Evo, I have their steamer, but he needs more inputs.  CD, TT, Tuner and Wiim.  

I do think he will lose the tuner soon.  Thanks again

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Maybe Emotiva - good SS for the money or Advanced Paris - hybrid tube pre w SS amp - easy to listen to laid back presentation. 

Yes emotiva and advanced paris good bang for buck. J7st bought the advance paris 250 as it has it all.tmr had 20% off used 2200$ .enjoy the hunt.

For a little more, you could get a Primare i25. It has expansion slots to add a pretty nice DAC (DM-36) and streamer (Prisma) boards. This would make it an all-in-one component, but even without, the i25 is a nice Integrated. 

I had the Primare Pre35 for a while. It's knobs and casework were very nice and did not feel cheap at all, compared to others in this price tier.

There are a ton of good streaming amps out there, think that should work, get some better speakers. There are some bookshelf ones out there that will sound much better over the CV's. Think he can get a "rocking" setup for $1500-3000 range.

Yes sir mswale.  The CV's are ok, I did just get them serviced and they sound not bad for what they are.  I compared them to my JBL 4312A's and JBL 4309's book shelves, which in my opinion are the classic California rock sound we love.  I did give him some B/W bookshelves, which out to help. 

I also compared the CV's to my other set up, Rotel pre and (2) amps with B/W 702 S3's and Focal Utopia Micro's and  quite different.  Again, pretty mediocre.  He will never spend the money I have just need to keep him improved.  

Thanks all, as always you guys are great!

Looking for the Primare i25, No longer available new, but Crutchfield recommend this one.  Looks strong, love the meters and good reviews.  What do you guys say?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_538A10/Advance-Paris-A10-Classic.html

 

 

@speedysteve4 Crutchfield is probably not a dealer anymore but Audio Adviser has them new. It is their latest current model.

Here is a fully loaded one (dac and streamer) at Audio Advice

(two different companies with similar name but they both have all the models)

Things to consider:

- The Primare is Class D amplification.

- The Advance Paris is a tube pre with Class A/B amplification. Is your friend okay with tubes.

Good point, how often do tubes need/replaced ?  I had a tube amp in the day, great sound, but tubes were a pain.  Long time ago, maybe better today?

Thanks ES

@speedysteve4 

 

Would an Eversolo Play fit his needs?  I just bought one for my son as a house-warming gift.  I gave him one of my extra turntable and a pair of Klipsch speakers.   The Eversolo Play is a streaming amp with a Phono input, another input, and a Sub Out.  That would take care of your friend’s streaming needs, turntable needs, and a future CD player if he chooses.  Eversolo makes a version of the Play with a CD player, but I didn’t want to risk noise being introduced. 

 

A fantastic product for $699.  I got one on sale for $550.  It is basically idiot proof with tons of features including Room Correction. 

Tell your guy to get these speakers for around 2000 dollars...Tekton Epic 15

https://tektondesign.com/product/full-range-speakers/full-towers/epic-15/#color

They sound better than speakers priced 20 times, 30 times more, etc.

There is no beating this Yamaha amp in the lower budget category either

Yamaha A-S801

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022AS801S/Yamaha-A-S801-Silver.html?tp=34948

 

 

 

would suggest he keeps what he has. On a tight budget will not be easy to beat the Kenwood.