Finally arrived !!


My journey has come to an end and I could not be happier.

I am lucky to own now two systems, the "big" one and the "small" one from Crimson/Tocaro.

While the "small" system has obviously not the capabilities of the "big" one, I would not miss anything getting old with just the "small" one, it is THAT good, and the "big" one is hard to describe other than it plays music (vs. making sounds).

(I am particularly fuzzy with boomy bass and shrill heights and mids not sounding like the instruments/voices. The Crimson/Tocaro has to be experienced to be believed. And yes, I heard it all - all the big and "mighty" hi-end brands - and nothing plays music like my combos).

This is the latest gen Crimson 880 and the latest gen Tocaro 50F
The last picture are Crimson 640eIV and Tocaro 40F

The Dac is a Mytek and the current source is a HQPlayer based on Win Server 2019 (running on 15w) and the NAA also Server 2019 at 5w, all with good power supplies and some UpTone goodies.
(While I am not active on this forum, you find my on audiophilestyle as mops911 ;-) )

 

50F

 

880-710

 

NM

 

TX

 

total111

My journey has come to an end and I could not be happier.

Me too ... And my system cost is lower than yours ... 😉

(While I am not active on this forum, you find my on audiophilestyle as mops911 ;-) )

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50F

I am active on this forum and my components are indicated in my virtual system page ...

 

Why are you happy ?

Is it because you bought the right component and because of the synergy ? Or is it more ?

In my case there is more than synergy to explain my minimal acoustic satisfaction threshold passage ...

Anyway.... Congratulations ! Very beautiful room indeed!

I appreciate that you love dog too ...

My journey has come to an end....

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Good stuff, so congrats anyway, even if you can't make good on actually ending this ride! 😉

I have been very interested in Tocaro for the past few years.  Just hard to hear on the West Coast.

Must sound very good, because I don't think that you bought it for looks. 

See the picture above TV? Thats a Seftel https://www.seftelgallery.com
No music system ever looks good, as it also should not really aspire to do it...If I want something good looking I buy art. If it should sound good, I buy a music system. Pretty binary and non-compromising ;-)

@bobheinatz if you are in Dallas or Santa Fe let me know ;-)

But yeah, this speaker/electronic combo is final for me. Again, I listen to it all and thats by FAR the best music, actual music I ever heard in any system at any price.

But yes, I tinker with the digital frontend for fun, but thats it. Not that there is much benefit anymore, but because its fun to tinker. And when the new Uptone EtherRegen will come out, I will get it too ...

Forgot, for the big stereo, I will install a dedicated line. 300ft from main transformer and distribution into 14 wall outlets. All single core as all my cables are....it just sounds cleaner ;-) and more real (The small stereo has a dedicated line already).

These both systems make me regularly cry in a sense that they bring emotions out. How can it get better, every second I listen I am just amazed how REAL is sounds. Thats not a feeling which wanes...but I know from previous systems, that it is never good enough, like a drug...but as the title says, I arrived!

I am a bit confused.  What are all those pieces on the rack that look exactly the same?  Looks to be 12 of them plus a controller on the other rack? What are they, what do they do and what is the brand?

I recognize them a Crimson amps which I saw a pair of on USAudiomart for sale once. They are an unusual shape. I'm guessing that the speakers are triamplified or something like that. I didn't notice wires. I figured that the one on the other table is a preamp.

There seems only one person genuinely curious ;-)
(more trolls than I though ;-) )

@stereo5

The 12 boxes are 6 mono-blocks with each its own Power supply. The amps have a neat feature to "DC couple" them, which removes the cap in the output and which adds indeed another jump in reproduction quality. Each mono delivers ~175w into 8ohm.

Each speaker chassis has hence its own amplifier and as there is no cross-over its indeed all "active"...one of many reasons why it sounds so real and direct and fast!

@total111, thank you for clarifying.  I first thought it was a new Naim piece.  What is the brand of the amps and how do you control the level of each amp since it’s crossover-less?   You must have had to do endless tweaking of each driver level. 

@stereo5  apologies for not being clearer.  
 

The amps are Crimson 880. Did I forget to say that the people behind Crimson and Tocaro are not only very nice but also real geniuses?

There is no adjustement necessary whatsoever. I push ON on the Crimson 710 preamp and the 880s turn on in sequence. One after the other. And then only one volume button. That’s it. British hifi at its best. Redux to max.  and 50 years of maturing. Yes this system plays against anything at any price and is simple to use. Worth every penny. But lots of pennies…. 😉😉
 

 

(more trolls than I though ;-) )

You got your dream system, now get the f out of this forum :)

I dont mind about the system ... I can replace it at very lowest cost for almost the same S.Q. with 6 months research ... ... A claim bit rude perhaps but i learn a lot in the last years ...i  can apologize for saying that and i do it ,  but i cannot apologize for thinking it ...

I want the house for sure and i like dog ...Very beautiful house if i judge by the room ...But i guess i cannot afford it ... 😁

😊

If you say so.

​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​See the picture above TV? Thats a Seftel https://www.seftelgallery.com

No music system ever looks good, as it also should not really aspire to do it...If I want something good looking I buy art. If it should sound good, I buy a music system. Pretty binary and non-compromising ;-)

I don’t know what’s more impressive. Your system or the room it’s in. Glad that you’re enjoying this great hobby! 👍

Active, makes the most sense. If the system performs to expectation and beyond, the cost is soon forgotten.

Enjoy