Anyone tried the Ortofon Concorde century Cartridge?


I am able to get a great deal on a new one. I know the 40th anniversary model is based on the ortofon Blue. However, I'm not certain what the century model is based on. KAB does a combo with sys40 stylus that is basically a Ortofon Black. 

The silver looks nice with a Technics 1200 GR (my TT). 

Any thoughts?
aberyclark
An interesting fact that Concorde originally was an MC cartridge, not MM.

Vintage catalog with these models with more info here
And the Universal versions (better known as OM today)

Here is the specs for vintage Concorde MC200 and MC100 LOMC cartridges. 

There are many problems with modern Concorde cartridges, one of the problem is lack of connection on tonearm, another problem is cracked styli (plastic holder often cracks on the top).

If you like headshell integrated cartridges you might know this one ?
Or maybe that red beauty ?

Concorde may look good, but it’s a mediocre cartridge and the anniversary model is nothing but a marketing trick, they did it before with Concorde Gold for Technics LTD models.


i did own the Ortofon MC Anna Diamond for a few months, which was similar to the Ortofon MC Century. both fantastic cartridges and a whole different level than those others.

i still have a standard MC Anna, and previously owned a couple A90's.

really like the top level Ortofon's.
I read on a post somewhere, when the Concord century was released a couple years back, that the sound sits somewhere between the Bronze and Black. Not as warm/veiled sounding as the Bronze, not as analytical as the Black. Basically, the best of both worlds. The sound sample thats on youtube makes it seem like a pleasant offering (of course, one can't base decisions on youtube sound demos.)
i did own the Ortofon MC Anna Diamond for a few months, which was similar to the Ortofon MC Century. both fantastic cartridges and a whole different level than those others.

MC Century and Concorde Century MM are completely different.
-MC Century is $12 000 cartridge
-Concorde Century is $750 MM cartridge.

OP asking for Concorde MM cartridge, anniversary edition.
Oh yes. Thanks for correction. I meant to point that out in my previous post. 
This is what you meant ?
If you’re looking for 40 Anniversary Concorde from KAB then Fine Line or Fritz Geiger option is the best.

The price is high and you can’t change the alignment method using Concorde cartridge, there is no adjustment of overhang. This is really not the best cartridge and instead of paying that much you can buy some amazing MM or MI cartridges from the past with much better sound quality than any Concorde with any type of styli. This is MM cartridge and cantilever is very cheap and soft aluminum, again, you can pay the same price for a better cartridge with advanced cantilever, stylus.

KAB offers some upgrades for the most popular (none audiophile) gear and it’s good for those who already have that gear and willing to upgrade a bit.

But the best upgrade is to buy another cartridge from the start. I tried all Concorde models in the past (15-20 years ago), it was $150 cartridges for professional needs, they are low compliance designed for high tracking force. An entry level cartridge for high price (for an entry level) and any simple $100 Grado MI killing it!

If you want an audiophile grade cartridge then Stanton CS-100 WOS, Pickering XSV/4000, Pioneer PC-1000 mkII, Grace F9, Victor X1IIe is the way to go with $500-750 budget max.

Have you listened to the Ortofon Concorde Century? 
Here is everything you need to know about Concorde Century.

This just another cartridge in Concorde MM family, the stylus profile is great and the compliance is higher than older Concorde (i tried all of them), but it is still a Concorde, just with better stylus (FineLine) for $750.

Ortofon claimed it’s equal to 2M family in terms of sound, but as i said you can’t adjust this cartridge and this is disadvantage. I know for sure that 2M series can be easily outperformed by those vintage MM and MI i have mentioned earlier.

Ortofon also claimed this is not a DJ cartridge like any other Concorde here. This is good point, because all those standard Concorde are high output but very thin and muddy sounding cartridges compared to cheaper Grado DJ carts. But i’m pretty sure they are selling millions of Concorde for club and DJs, they are very robust at high tracking force and people love them, but the sound of many other professional cartridges are so much better (Grado, Stanton, Pickering, Shure...). Back in the days professional standard was much higher, Grace made Disco models (very rare today), old Stanton was very nice, here is an old Stanton flyer. And finally this article is very interesting.

Also i want to mention vintage Ortofon M20FL SUPER with FineLine stylus. This forgotten MM cartridge was so cheap ($60) when many audiogonners purchased it and raved about it 10 years ago on this forum, maybe not so cheap today ($150 for this cartridge is a steal). I have NOS stylus on the shelf and this is how it looks under my macro lens.

Now back to Concorde, i'm not sure why it's $750, probably because it's limited edition. For $750 anyone can find the best MM with Boron, Ruby or Beryllium cantilevers and greatest diamonds. 

Concorde Century Specs are not very promising:

Output voltage at 1000 Hz, 5cm/sec. - 5.5 mV
Channel balance at 1 kHz - 1 dB
Channel separation at 1 kHz - 26 dB
Channel separation at 15 kHz - 15 dB
Frequency range at - 3dB - 20-29.000 Hz
Frequency response - 20-20.000 + 2 / - 0 dB
Tracking ability at 315Hz at recommended tracking force - 70 µm
Compliance, dynamic, lateral - 16 µm/mN
Stylus type - Nude Fine Line
Stylus tip radius - r/R 8/40 µm
Tracking force range - 1.6-2.0g (16-20 mN)
Tracking force, recommended - 1.8 g (18 mN)
Tracking angle - 20°
Internal impedance, DC resistance - 1,2 kOhm
Internal inductance - 630 mH
Recommended load resistance - 47 kOhm
Recommended load capacitance - 150-300 pF
Cartridge colour, body/stylus - Chrome
Cartridge weight - 18.5 g
The Century specs above look to be quite close to the 2m Bronze. 
"For $750 anyone can find the best MM with Boron, Ruby or Beryllium cantilevers and greatest diamonds."

The only thing that one cannot get better anywhere else, maybe even for less money, is.....Concorde.

I have never heard this particular cartridge, but have a hard time believing it is not decent. Sound is only a part of the appeal. The only worry is how long will shiny chrome replacement styli be available. One would not want to buy the cartridge and have to use black replacement in a few years.
Dear @aberyclark  : for to many years to remember now and as @mikelavigne  I owned and own Ortofon cartridges along other over 150-200 MM/MI/IM/MC cartridges.

Ortofon is a warranty of excellence and nothing more and always will be " there " for you in the future as you need it.

I owned de Concorde good cartridge for those times.

Don't be worried about and go a head with it and take advantage of that offer you have.

chackster is a seller so do not take very seriously because he is not taking care of you but only your $$$$


Regards and enoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
I just purchased the 78 version from KAB and it sounds wonderful. I still think I will find a Concorde Century to go with my KAB 40 Concorde. 
Lol @rauliruegas
I’ve purchased 14 vintage carts from @chakster , 5 vintage minty/NOS arms, a Victor TT101 in pristine condition and have NEVER had a problem with his service or recommendations. Not many people here do as much research or have the experience listening to these glorious analog pieces as he does. I’m guessing Raul was just joking, if not, he’s insulting chakster’s intelligence. I can’t imagine not shopping at this store. It brings me such joy. Those that have been on Audiogon for awhile know who's telling the truth and who's a crazy person.