Is high end audio to snooty for its own good?


I think it has become that way. Some people flaunt that they have high end systems and they listen to certain kinds of music and I think it puts the hobby in a negative light at times.
calvinj
ABSOLUTLEY and many of them are on this site and while their is some valuable info to be gained in which I have been visiting this site on and off the last 30 years its getting more and more snooty lately then in the early ears and thats exactly why I have very few post or comments since rejoining.


You posted here 30 years ago? Whoa!! Hey, is that before the Internet? Did you post with smoke signals?

Tecknik i agree with you. They ragged on me because I listened to all music some hip hop but  mostly jazz. I don't do snooty!
Once upon a time, I got very tired of hearing smooth jazz and Diana Krall at what seemed like every gear audition and audio club meeting on earth. However, I don't begrudge any fan of that music their enjoyment of those recordings and I don't expect I'd ever convert them to Wagner or Roxy Music or Jaime Wyatt.

I've been blessed over the years to know a few great audio pros/dealers who truly loved music and generously shared their insight and wisdom. They totally balance out the very few high end snobs who only play Famous Blue Raincoat or RCA shaded dogs on their ultra $$$ systems. I've heard some killer systems over the years, and I had a pretty good one ($$) myself for awhile.

That was then, this is now: we're starting again and having fun putting together a modest system, one that *all* our recordings sound good through, including vintage and mono recordings, LPs, CDs, opera blu-rays and downloads. It will be a good, musical system but it won't be the last word in hi-fi.  I really do wanna hear the music, not the gear.  I'd like to meet some local audio friends but I'm really content to stay at home and enjoy our collection with the hubby,

Ultimately, it's about enjoying the music. Music feeds my soul. For me, that's mainly classical and opera, but also includes rock, R&B, folk, jazz, alt country and pop. (For my spouse, it's 97% classical.} I don't like hip hop, metal or trance, but I'm fine if you do. That means we might have different priorities and different choices in gear but - hey- many are the paths to musical nirvana, plenty of gear to go around.
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I just have a range of music that runs a little farther than most. I can listen to country classical jazz r&b hip hop blues etc. I can appreciate the instruments words and story telling in all music!
Yes......for instance ; David Michael Audio as I had called him  4 times, 4 times on a $20,000 retail pre-map I was very interested in and he didn't even have the common courtesy to even call me back. I went to Anthony Perrotta Consulting who I have done business with in the past, and was able to work out a deal. He does not have the audio arrogance as some. Great guy to work with. Todd at ;  Todd the Vinyl Junkie is another one of the '' few '' straight shooters in this business.  I have been in this hobby for 42 years and yes I have met some real jerks and we all know who they are.    
many are the paths to musical nirvana, plenty of gear to go around
+1 rackon- My choice for tag line of the year!

There are pretentious people in almost every category.

Church, cars, clothes, watches, property, interior/exterior design, engineering, science, etc.  you name it, you won't get away from that 100%.

People are people, some like to rub into your face how what they have is better than what you have.

My definition of a snob is "a snob is a person that tells you what you like".

Walk into a high end watch store not dressed to kill and see how they treat you initially.  Try to ask about high end pens.  yes pens.  If you don't know what you are talking about, they will laugh you out of the store. 

most everything is a science.

Many audiophiles don't really discuss their systems with many others, because some people don't and won't try to understand and feel you are being elitist.  However, they understand high end cars vs Toyotas. 

Ask some Women about high end $2000 shoes vs pay for less.  They know about high end clothes and shoes.

But for some reason they can't or won't understand high end audio.  They listen as background music only and space, dimensionality, depth, tonal balance, etc. is a different language from a different plant to them.

The real test of whether you are a snob or not is your reaction to when they ask you about Bose products. 

this really is a test they are putting you through and you're response is a clear indication to them about you.

enjoy 

One thing that keeps many potential music lovers from advancing into the audiophile world is that our endeavor is in many ways, a solitary one.  In many set-ups (mine for example) there is only room for one person in the sweet spot.  Even more (my case again) my system is in a separate dedicated room.  The lack of social involvement repels many folks.

Second thing that discourages many potential audiophiles is the cost of the gear and the pretentious crews that often sell the components.  Agree with others that this elitism is in other endeavors as well.  As I am thinking about what to write hear I am taking a mental inventory of who I've done business with and they are many of the really good folks in audiodom.

Richard Vandersteen (can be a bit snippy on the phone), Steve McCormack, Bob Backert, the PS Audio crew, Paul Laudati are all total gentlemen and great to talk to and work with.  Interesting thing is that in most of my experiences, the people who work with them are very polite, appreciative and unpretentious.  The culture at these establishments is positive and welcoming.

Pleased to see the less expensive lines/gear many of the audio good guys are coming out with.  Sincerely hoping that they can lure in young people and shepherd them into the appreciation of well reproduced music loving.
Interesting comments here.  I tried to buy speakers from the guy at Ariel acoustics. 10k purchase and just was really rude. Wouldn't call back really put me off. I have learned that you move on quickly. If you get that kind of service on front be lucky you found out early. Some guys don't value your business then keep it moving. Same thing goes for tastes in music etc.  Music is for you to enjoy! Enjoy it and be happy!
Thanks! for sharing- garebear.
incredible! how David Michael Audio turned you down? Good to read about
Perrotta Consulting being a stand-up guy. He seems to get quite a nice selection of gear. Does he have a showroom to audition gear?

Happy Listening!
Cost does not matter, brand does not matter, music type does not matter. Sound matters!
I agree sound matters.  I will listen to any thing that sounds good. Doesn't matter the equipment cables or genre