I would come to Newport with my jazz and blues and they would play it. I wouldn't bring my rap CDs. They are for my enjoyment. I don't seek the approval of others to enjoy what I enjoy. It's for me. Not to fit in. I listen to opera, classical, jazz, hip hop, r&b, blues, rock and pop. I enjoy the Tord gustaven project (If I'm spelling it right) as much as I enjoy miles and my old school hip hop. I listen to a Spanish singer Buika even though I don't speak spanish because of the emotion of her voice and the talent of the musicians. I love Dave Holland and Pepe Habichuela "Hands" because I respect the musicians and how well they play. I don't need the acceptance of a bunch of snooty folks to make me feel refined. Lol. I don't fit into your rap lover thug box I'm so sorry. I really don't care to fit at all. You should try not fitting. It's very liberating. 1977 I was a 5 year old kid riding in my grandfathers Cadillac listening to Lightnin Hopkins Blues songs. Simple hard working factory man and his grandson listening to the blues. I would never seek the approval of folks who don't matter much to me. In rap if you have spit a excellent verse of poetry you drop the mike and walk away. Picture that right about NOW! |
I have ran it to great people in this hobby who loved the music and the sound. A friend of mine and dealer David Baskin passed away a few months ago. Amazing raidho d5 and all soulutions electronics. $500,000 system great listening sessions I would tell him about jazz he hadn't heard. We would go down for a listen every few months. Great dealer and not snooty. Lol. Some people are about the hobby. Some dealers and some hobbyist. I've met some good down to earth folks in the hobby. However, you run into the high brows every now and then. Someone's car, audio system or cigars don't impress me. It's about the 5 or 6 hour listening sessions with your audio friends and enjoying whatever music you like to play. If your circle is snooty and that's what you like them enjoy your company. If it's a classic common man group enjoy that too |
@bondmanp I agree with your assertions. Great listening sessions with people who have different tastes. We also take turns during our listening sessions playing CDs we like. Each guy gets 30 min or an hour. I've found out recently about some Christian artists from bethel music that I never heard but sound great. I got a group of 5 guys that listen from time to time we have a guy with 300k system. A guy with a 20k system and couple of guys with 40k systems and we all can enjoy each other's systems. Listening is fun and relaxing. I don't do it to impress anyone. If I did I would try to impress my real friends. Lol. Not people I don't know. Even in our group we got a couple of guys the dissect the music with a scalpel but we calm them down and get them back on their meds. It's a joy in the hobby when you got your guys listening. Enjoy your music. I started the thread because I went to a Lone Star Audio fest 5 years ago and I saw a snooty crowd and then I saw some diy guys and budget system guys. However I also saw some great audiophiles high end and non high end talk about the music and come together to enjoy both sides. Enjoy your music!
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I had to do a double take when I saw the Bach response. Lol. Bach will refine me. Makes great music but seriously. Really! I just realized the kind of people that I'm responding to. That's why I asked the snooty question in the first place. Lol. Extreme gaming is not a sport and being an audiophile is a hobby. Live with it. |
As far as to or too. I'm responding on my little iPhone and I'm typing rather fast. @souljasmooth you see this stuff the reason why hip hop doesn't seek acceptance of these kind of folks because they front like a fake gangsta rapper. I'm versatile and will listen to anything. Refined is not what I would call folks that wrap self worth in their audio systems or that somehow it ties in to the being more civilized. I had to adjust my Turnbull and Asser bow tie. Lol |
@souljasmooth go listen to a group called Black Violin they have a song called "Brandenburg"it's to classically trained violinists that do hip hop. They have a video to the song on YouTube. Check it out and tell me what you think.
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@souljasmooth I would +1 you but some of those nerd guys are my really good friends. Lol. Man I got the answer to my question by some of these responses. Christian believers are me. Once again there they go. They are better patriots, Christians, audiophiles etc etc. The snootiness has nothing to do with OUR Christian faith. This is where you have proven me right. I'm wasting time by even responding to folks who would even use faith that way. No wonder our great country is going this way. |
Yeah, they are great. I love the video. It is the perfect fit for the thread. Lol. Anyway I have some great friends in this hobby. Some with great cutting edge gear. I originally asked the question because I don't fit the typical audiophile box. I have an high end system but I listen to hip hop, blues, jazz, Latin Jazz, classical, rock, Christian, etc. I just noticed that some of the dealers and hobbyists are kind of uppity at times. I was trying to buy some Dali epicon speakers from a place in Dallas and was ready to pull the trigger but the dealer was extremely snooty. So I had my current speaker the gato fm6 shipped from Denmark. I asked the question about being snooty because there are really some great folks in the hobby. Then there are the extreme guys that can be on the obsessive nutty side. My group in Dallas is not like that. They are good guys. Some of my closest buddies. I love a variety of music. I respect the musicians, art and lyrics. There is some diva behavior in the hobby though that I could do without.
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Well the reason why the question was asked because there seems to be the idea that lower end equipment and certain musical genres are somehow inferior. I don’t think the hobby should be that way. I have been fortunate enough to experience the growth of hip hop at the same time enjoy jazz, rock and blues. I have an appreciation for some classical music but i don’t listen to it most of the time. I think that it can be that way at times but I think at times it can be a little high brow. However there are people in it that are truly in it for the music and sound quality. There are others that are in it too say look what I got and because I have it I’m somehow better than a DIY guy. Lol. Interesting conversation |
@jafant. Thanks. I started this thread because I wanted to see how people felt. I don't fit the typical audiophile look. I therefore run into situations when this comes up. Nothing like being ready to buy and having to run into snoots. I remember going into stores and the assumptions costing the salesman the sale. |
@rsangole. Welcome. I have been blessed to listen to some great systems. With some great down to earth guys. I've listened to Raidho with soulutions gear. Very expensive. However the guy who owned it was great and he enjoyed finding out about new music. I met to other guys who let me demo great products at different price points. They could enjoy vastly different musical genres. I guess ultimately you have to remember to get the best you can afford. Then properly match it and enjoy. I have ran into snooty guys in the hobby but I have also met great folks who it's truly about music. Not the genre but the music. Please keep it that way on your audiophile journey.
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I actually bought my speakers in Scotland and had them shipped here because of the bad service I was getting here in the states. It's a shame that the U.S. Distributor was such a snoot. |
Started this thread a year ago. Learned so much about people and why the hobby is slowly losing customers and hobbyists. In the end I enjoy my system and that's all that matters. I have 5 or 6 true audio friends. The rest don't matter much to me. Enjoy everyone |
I'm back. Met some down to earth Audiophiles at the lone star audio fest in dallas! How is everyone! |
Yes he his and the rest of his hip hop hating crew is. I'm open to and appreciate all music and down to earth folks. |
Tecknik i agree with you. They ragged on me because I listened to all music some hip hop but mostly jazz. I don't do snooty!
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I just have a range of music that runs a little farther than most. I can listen to country classical jazz r&b hip hop blues etc. I can appreciate the instruments words and story telling in all music! |
Interesting comments here. I tried to buy speakers from the guy at Ariel acoustics. 10k purchase and just was really rude. Wouldn't call back really put me off. I have learned that you move on quickly. If you get that kind of service on front be lucky you found out early. Some guys don't value your business then keep it moving. Same thing goes for tastes in music etc. Music is for you to enjoy! Enjoy it and be happy!
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I agree sound matters. I will listen to any thing that sounds good. Doesn't matter the equipment cables or genre |
