Audiophiles and Our Chase for Perfection


I'd like to solicit some thoughts and responses regarding some of our idiosyncrasies, taboo's and philosophies as audiophiles, specifically with regards to cabling.

Even if there was some magical fairy dust material that could coax protons and electrons into behaving differently or better; your signal is still going to be subject to the limitations of the “weakest component” in the signal path.

A perfect example of this is speaker cable. You can spend $50 to $100K or more on them, but as soon as they hit the next connection, junction or conductor, for example, the speaker terminal, you’ve fundamentally nullified any “perceived” benefit from those cables. Not to mention the soldering materials and their impact.

And the cycle goes on through the entirety of the circuit; including the connector/lug, back of the lug terminal, more soldering, wiring from the internal lug to the next component, to the next component and so on until you finally come to the wire or cable connecting to the driver, and even then you hit another junction at the terminal at the speaker itself as well as the subsequent wire from the terminal connecting to the voice coil, then the voice coil wire itself.

The bottom line is, there are so many contributors in the path that, unless you tear the entire speaker apart and replace them all with your idea of the “gold standard” or perfect material/component, you're still only going to be as good as the weakest component in the path. At the end of the day, just get some reasonably good 14 to 8 Gauge cables that are made of sound conducting material (e.g. 99.99% copper, or Silver if you prefer) because that same logic can be applied to ALL of the materials in the signal path.

The scenario above doesn’t even consider the influence or impact of all of the predecessor components in the signal path coming from the Amp, CD transport, DAC or any and all upstream components, as they all influence the integrity of the signal.

It should also be noted that the length the signal travels in that speaker cable (perhaps 6’ to 15’ or so) is a very short path in comparison to the rest of the system both pre and post cable connection.

The following is used with permission from Eric Alexander, Founder & Lead Designer, Tekton Design, LLC

"I truly believe audiophiles are chasing illusions, constantly attempting to fill an acoustic void that standard high-end audio simply cannot satisfy. When a flashy new component or wire comes along, the industry reacts with predictable, superficial hype. My 'In Real Life' (IRL) technology directly proves this theory—it delivers the authentic sound and visceral connection that audiophiles have been destitute and desperate for.

jijoh123

@wolf_garcia 

Perform an REW measurement of your system. Then decide if you really like what you have or if you might want to change it. 

You may be happy with what you have now. However, there very well may be some changes that will make you more happy.

I guarantee that your room will create peaks and valleys below 100 Hz. You'll not know where they are in frequency or room location unless you measure.

At a minimum, REW will assist you in speaker and listener placement within the room. 

I think all of you, while engaging in an interesting discussion nonetheless, have missed the point the OP is making.  All audiophile tweaking is now obsolete.  We are now in the golden age of sound reproduction and I-R-L is being gifted to us by the audio gods.  I have no idea what IRL is, but I will guess that somewhere in the technical explanation the word quantum appears.

@onhwy61 I ignored the IRL bit. Quantum...the audio marketing term with the best BS rating.

Really don't need more gear , I finally ordered a pair of bass traps.    Going to start there and do some sound panel "art" on the walls.   Room actually isn't bad except for a nasty peak down low.   

@xmbw4 Certain aspects of high end audio offend some people to the very core of their being. They will argue for decades and dream up complicated, technical theories as to why they’re right and never come 1% closer to answering any questions, or solving a problem.

+1

@jijoh123 ….apart and replace them all with your idea of the “gold standard” or perfect material/component, you’re still only going to be as good as the weakest component in the path. At the end of the day, just get some reasonably good 14 to 8 Gauge cables that are made of sound conducting material (e.g. 99.99% copper, or Silver i….

Your assumption that because of other variables from components mean that cables are not important- the logic doesn’t follow. The entire audio chain matters including cabling.

Also, you’re ignoring basic known performance properties of a well designed audio cable including LCR, dielectrics, and weave pattern.  I suggest you read Iconoclast Design and Technical white papers to get a basic idea of audio cabling properties and construction. Sure basic wire will work, but we’re after better Sonics.