Looking for a cd transport in the 5k range: Jay’s Audio CDT3 MK3 or Pro-Ject RS2T?


I wrote recently about a brand where I had both their transport and DAC which after a certain period of time could not be fixed. Kept breaking down. Spent too much money trying to get them to work. No dice. Refused to name brand because I knew thread would be taken down. Yet somebody guessed it shortly after! Astonishing.

So I need a transport and from comments on Audiogon it has come down to these two. Problem with Jay is they only have one dealer in Texas who does not return calls the PRO--JECT is easily accessible and 2k cheaper. It must be a top loader with an AES output. Just transport, No DAC.

Currently using th $500 SMSL(some prefer the Shanling) as a very good stopgap  but am looking for more resolution in large orchestral forces.

Anybody heard both of these and have any opinions?

Thanks for your help.

roxy1927

I have a Jay's CD3MkIII and a Teac 701t. I like them both and they sound very similar if not identical through a Berkeley Audio Reference II MQA. However, they are different in some important ways that you may want to consider. BTW I have not heard the Project transport but I didn't consider it due to the rreported problems.

I've had several transports and I expect these two to be my endgame. The single most important factor for me was the manufacturer of the drive mechanism. I had an absolute disaster with a PS Audio transport ($4k retail) that used a cheapo computer drive that repreadedly failed. Junk. I'll never make that mistake again.

Here are some considerations about both transports.

Jay's CD3MkIII

  1. Top loader. This may or may not be a positive depending on your gear layout. I like the top loading feature.
  2. The best Phillips drive ever made. It will probably last a lifetime but Jay's has an inventory of spares if you need one.
  3. Built like a tank and a joy to use. This piece of gear just oozes quality.
  4. It upsamples by 4X if you want it to do that. Depending on your DAC's filter scheme that may lead to better sound.
  5. The unit dithers the 16th bit and you cannot defeat this feature. This means that the transport will not decode HDCD disks (they will play fine but the DAC can't decode the HDCD). I have several hundred HDCDs so that's a problem for me. This is the reason I got the Teac as a second transport.

Teac 701T

  1. Front loader. Built well. Mechanism is quiet and smooth.
  2. My Berkeley DAC will decode HDCD disks and this trasport plays them no problem.
  3. The 701T will also play MQA disks (my Berkeley decodes these also). I have bought a couple dozen disks of this format and mostly they sound very similar to their regular counterpart but with some titles there is a big difference (improvement). It may be in the mastering but whatever - it's important to me to have this capability.
  4. The Teac VRDS drive is one of the best ever made and if yours ever fails they will have a replacement.

If I had to live with one of these I would go with the Teac because of the capability to play HDCD and MQA disks.

 

 

So people find sound quality equally good on both these units. Is a coaxial output comparable to an AES?

roxy1927

The best transports I've ever heard are the Jay's Audio units; I will upgrade my Audiolab 6000CDT, and it will most likely be the $2,600 CDT-2 MkIII......I compared it to the $5,100 CDT-3 and I could barely tell the difference between them (not saying you couldn't)

Jay's Audio dealer is Alvin Chee at Vinshine Audio (who also supplies Kinki Studios, Laiv Audio, Choco Studio, LHY, and Volumio.....also formerly Denafrips before they went direct to consumer). I've dealt with Alvin several times over the last 6 years or so, and he is an EXCELLENT dealer, and very responsive.

 

@charles1dad Who is at present on a forum hiatus, has in the past posted very useful info on CDT's and was a Project user.

His sharing of experiences will add to the content already shared in this Thread.

I make this reference as the OP is looking to be sure footed in their next venture for acquiring a Source Ancillary.

I've never understood on forums when people post that they are interested in two specific choices why commentators feel the need to recommend other options with no mention of the choices in question. If I was interested in a new car and narrowed my choices between a Honda or Toyota, why tell my about how much you love your Hyundai? It does not seem very helpful. 

I ordered a Jay's Audio CD3MKIII directly from Alvin at Vinshine Audio. When it first arrived one channel was intermittently cutting out. Alvin did his best to help my diagnose the issue. When what we tried did not resolve the issue he got Todd at TEK involved. I shipped it to Texas where Todd found that a wire had somehow came loose. He repaired it and shipped it back to me all on their dime. It's been flawless ever since. He's an engineer by training and very responsive. I would not think twice about buying it again and have beed delighted with their service and responsiveness!  Highly recommend. 

Conversely, I bought a Mark Levinson turntable from a local dealer. Over time the tone arm lift failed. I had to bring it back to my local dealer, they had to ship it to Mark Levinson/Marantz, they had to diagnose it, repair it, then ship it back to my dealer and I had to pick it up from them. The time it took from start to finish was much longer than my Jay's Audio. I value support from my local dealer but online support can be just as good.