Thanks for the link to the article from Mike Lavigne, lots of good stuff from everyone! That was a good thought from jetter, hadn’t thought about that aspect considering the difficulty to replicate. HAVE had surprises from Ebay before. Guess if I’m going to invest $13k +, maybe I should buy from a reputable site like AG, but that one is $30k list. So without the latest upgrades, would you buy the Dartzeel again, elrod? Have you heard anything else that you think would come close? Bryston, 60v/µs. Kind of hoping Mike L would chime in, don’t want to bother him with a PM.