nmmusicman,
Ahh, those were the days...
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I meant it to be a joke (sorta sarcastic). I guess it didn’t come out that way.
Sorry.
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wisper,
I'm glad great minds think alike!
millercarbon,
This is something that is immediately noticeable.
But, I do think having the pigtail installed is the correct path. Even now after many hours.
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Well Fed Ex lost the package and has no idea where it is...
Grrr...
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They found it!
So I drove 50 miles each way to retrieve it!
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thyname,
I know, are people getting dumber? Or am I just getting old? It just seems like these shipping companies hire people that have no clue how to speak to customers and no ability to research and resolve problems.
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I did own a Purist Dominus for a while. It was just ok with the equipment I had at the time.
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So, I have 3 dedicated 10 Gauge lines that are terminated with Furutech NCF outlets. I then have on each line a Niagara 7000, 1200 and 1000 power conditioners. I do totally agree that clean quality power is the foundation of my systems sound quality.
Since I am only using a Lumin X1 Dac/ Streamer direct to mono amps (no preamp or other sundry equipment is added), I therefore believe that the power supply and the interconnects (in my system) to be of the upmost importance.
So, to take one for the team, I went ahead and ordered a Synergistic Galileo SX power cord. We shall see. I will compare it to a Shunyata Sigma V2 and to my own DIY version that beat out the Audioquest Hurricane and several others.
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Jason,
Terrible analogy.
As we continue down the road of better equipment we become aware of how many items including how cables, (especially power cords) highlight our systems performance.
I suppose if you have a system that just plays songs via i tunes, etc. and that appeals to you then there is no point in discussing the benefits of further system improvement, i.e., cables, platforms etc.
But, if you ever truly become interested in the best lifelike performance of your favorite tunes then you will get it and understand. It is the never ending search for the ultimate sound.
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birdymaker,
Thank you so much for your impressions of various power cords including the SR Galileo SX.
I think SR said the power cord will be shipped next Thursday or Friday.
Looking forward to sharing.
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steakster,
You are so right!
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Thanks wisper. I'm expecting good things with the Synergistic SX power cable.
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nmmusicman,
I have only owned one MIT cable and it was a speaker cable. I think it was called the M-750. Never tried the power cords. Their design approach has always interested me.
Thank you for your post.
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I remember way back in the "Stone Age" I was a power cord doubter. One of the local dealers let me borrow a Synergistic Master Coupler power cord.
Expecting absolutely nothing I plugged it in. And son of a gun I did hear much better bass performance. How could just a power cord change do that I wondered. From that day on, I have always been impressed with the changes a power cord can make on a component.
Some are more impressive or different than others. Some do nothing different. I guess it depends on the cable design and the component. I do however believe that as our systems and the source music become more defined the more changes in cables become apparent.
Class dismissed...
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audition__audio,
That is true, and actually true for many other companies. One thought is they are always advancing the technology, and the other is, there are only so many of us Audiophiles, once the market cools for a product they must continue to reinvent the wheel to stay in business.
But, I hear ya.
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wisper,
I'm hoping it gets shipped today.
ozzy |
Update:
The power cord has been shipped. Fed Ex tracking shows estimated delivery to be Friday, but my gut says it will take longer.
ozzy |
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I have tried a Shunyata Sigma V2 NR and the XC version power cord. Neither cord worked well with my Niagara 7000 and the Sigma V2 NR was just a little bit better than ok on my Lumin X1. Though, I think I would have bought it if the dealer would have negotiated better.
I was able to snag a used Audioquest Dragon for my Niagara 7000 and it works well. Made for each other!
And, I have purchased the Synergistic Galileo SX for the Lumin at I think is a good price, and I am waiting for its arrival.
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drpie,
The Aluminata was about a 10-15 year model, not sure if it is still being made. My past experience with Kubala is they were kinda dark sounding. I have not tried the Odin.
So, are you saying you preferred the other cables over the Synergistic?
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drpie,
Thank you for clarifying.
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brubin,
To me it all starts with the AC power.
From dedicated lines, quality outlets, power conditioners and then power cords.
If (when) I change equipment I will still have the foundation of quality AC and that will allow the equipment to perform as designed.
At least IMHO.
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karmapolice,
Thank you for the information. I am really looking forward to trying it out.
Hopefully I will get it tomorrow.
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jafant,
Thanks.
First few minutes impression was that it seemed to make the music louder. If that is possible.
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Well after reading the manual/instructions/booklet it appears 100-200 hours of break in required to breakin the dialectic.
So far at this point I am not using the silver or gold bullet, and also I do not have the grounding plug connected. I did try the bullets and the silver heightened the image and the gold sort of softened it. I'll try them again after I put more hours on the cable.
I will say thus far that the cable has a more forward presentation than my previous one.
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24 hours later and the music is starting to resolve. The forwardness is receding and I can hear a grittiness in the music that wasn't there with my former cables.
Don't believe the hype that cables don't need time to break in...
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Jafant,
Thanks, the cable seem to be getting better with more hours.
ozzy |
Never heard that one, but remember its all about the music.
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ted_denney,
Ted,
I first did use the grounding pig tail, and I thought the soundstage shrunk a bit. Is that normal? So, I thought I would give it more hours and then try again. Does the plug need to go on the same dedicated line?
Initially I tried the silver bullet and thought the image was too forward, the gold sounded too soft. Sounds like goldilocks?
But, after reading the pamphlet included it said to wait after 100-200 hours before trying them. So they are set aside for future experimenting.
Update: I have reconnected the ground pigtail.
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Now with some hours (125+) on the power cable it has really improved. This weekend I will begin to experiment with the silver/ gold tuning bullets.
ozzy |
Well I just inserted the silver bullet into the SX power cord. I did not unplug the power cord. I hope that’s ok.
What I thought would be a a sharpening of the image actually turned out to push the image further back in the soundstage. This is within a few minutes so perhaps this perception will change with time.
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thyname,
Oh yes by far. The Shunyata Sigma was more closed in and darker, at least with my equipment. I think it is more geared towards the Shunyata equipment i.e. the Everest conditioner etc.
I do however like the Shunyata Sigma V2 interconnects.
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Update:
Today, now I am very glad I stuck it out with SR Galileo SX during the burn in cycle. I have perhaps 200 hours on it and it has transformed daily from the beginning when it sounded so very forward. There were no ups and downs just a continuing daily improvement.
Not sure how much better with additional hours it can become, but at this point it is a keeper.
The funny thing about break in, Synergistic Research said they burned in the cables for 5 days before shipping to me and claimed very little change would occur after additional hours.
BTW, I have recently compared the SR cable to a very expensive power cord.
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ted_denney,
Whomever answered the phone when I called checking on when the cables would be shipped reminded me that they were being burned in for 5 days so that they sound ready to go when I receive them.
Sounds like a disconnect between you and your employees. No big deal though, my past experience has always been cables needs some settling in time. Approx. 200 hours+. I'm just happy they have come around, quite a bit I must add from first listen.
Thank you for adding your response.
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ted_denney,
At this point I can honestly say that connecting up the little grounding pig tail to the wall outlet does constrict the soundstage.
In my system, I am using an Entreq Silver Tellus grounding station. My Lumin X1 is grounded to it via an RCA. I think the additional grounding wire from the SX power cord in this case is not needed.
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tom2015, I understand your question and this is what I can answer. When I bought my Lumin X1, to help pay for it I sold off a separate Dac, Music server, Digital Clock, Preamp and several other associated pieces of equipment. With the elimination of that equipment, I was able to then sell the many power cords and interconnects, footers etc. that was no longer needed. Now the only cables needed was the one set of interconnects to my amps and the power cords for the Lumin and the amps. So, to me, it was important that these cables were of high quality. With very good negotiating I was able to purchase the better power cords and interconnects. P. S. Power cords don’t wear out, but may be surpassed by other future "better" versions. Its an ongoing never ending hobby, isn’t it? ozzy |
Oh and by the way, my DIY pure silver power cords were relegated now to power the Audioquest Niagara 1200 power supply, JL Audio subs and the Oppo 205.
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thyname,
Well the problem is, to my amps I would need a 3 meter and a 2 meter length.
And that would require some big $$$!
I wonder if Biden could give me some stimulus money???
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I guess the simplest answer is when you change a piece of equipment and the sound is more enjoyable you know its a keeper.
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wisper,
I do think cables especially power cords are so component dependent. I have on my Audioquest Niagara 7000 power conditioner a Audioquest Dragon power cord. I have tried many different PC’s there and the Dragon is the best. Perhaps if I owned the Synergistic power cell power conditioner the SR power cord would prevail there.
The Synergistic SX has beaten all other PC’s that I have tried with my Lumin X1. What it provides is even more depth and soundstage, hard to believe that it could get any better with my current equipment.
P.S. I’m still not sold on the SR ground pig tail, but I will revisit it in the future.
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thyname,
Thanks for the encouragement. But probably will never happen.
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ted_denney,
Ok, I can finally agree connecting the ground pig tail is an improvement.
Though the soundstage does shrink the center image tightens and supports the overall soundstage image.
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millercarbon,
It is odd but there is a big change with or without the pigtail.
Without, the soundstage widens but is not as focused as with the pigtail connected. Images sound very focused and 3D like. It also seemed to improve with more hours, but that could be due to the Power cord getting more hours of AC.
I am grounding the pigtail directly to an outlet on the same wall duplex plug circuit that my Niagara 7000 is plugged into.
I also have my Lumin X1 connected up to my Entreq grounding box. This is not a AC ground, but a signal ground from one of the unused Lumin rca’s
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jafant,
Yes there is.
The SR as I mentioned, sharpens the soundstage. While the Entreq (which is connected only to my Lumin X1) adds more weight to the sound. I have actually built additional DIY versions of the Entreq and use them separately on my amps and speakers. But that's another story.
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jafant,
The Entreq is designed to be used on whole systems. I think mine has 6 or 8 connections.
At the present I only have it connected to my Lumin because I am using mono blocks straight from the Lumin and they are located about 10+ feet away.
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mid40sguy,
Thank you for your post. In addition to the Silver Tellus that I am using on my Lumin, I have made a few DIY Entreq boxes for my amps and speakers. Every time I disconnect one of them there is a loss of depth in the power of the music. Hard to explain but easily heard.
Synergistic is one of those companies that really push the boundaries of reality and hard to believe their products do what they do.
Yes, for what they are made of, they seem to be overpriced but the trial and error and experimenting must be costly. I really admire the thinking outside the box (or the norm).
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Yes, I still enjoy the SR SX power cord on my Lumin X1.
I would love to try the SX interconnects or speaker cables but I will probably need to rob a bank to make that happen. Perhaps the gov-r-mnt can provide the money too feed my habit...? Just kidding of course.
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I bought mine from David Weinhart. Give him a call.
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Jafant,
Take your gum out of your mouth before you read this, I think the SR SX MSRP is about $6000-$9000 depending upon the length.
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Sounds like you don't need a power cord.
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