I admit to being eccentric. I was going to recommend the Caldaras to someone looking for speakers. I owned Accoustat 2 + 2S made custom frames with 4 servo amps (slightly modified), later Maggies, which I never could get to perform anywhere near the 2 + 2s, a bunch of monkey coffins (box speakers), including HPs own pair of Genesis Vs (too power hungry), eventually bought Emerald Physics 3.0s(model #?) with custom updated XOs. Ive had them for 3+ years. They play everything extremely well and respond to the many changes Ive make to the system in a 35’+ x 21’+ x 12’ with all glass front wall. Sorry to hear people got screwed by Shaw