New Preamp or go Integrated


My Vincent SA-32 preamp is starting to hum or make a sizzle sound periodically in the background. The unit is 6 yrs old and the tubes are soldered (factory) and not easily replaced. Since upgrading my speakers to the Dynaudio Countour 20i from Evoke 20, the noise has become more noticeable. I believe it’s due to the revealing nature of the Contours.

My plan is to upgrade with a $5000 budget, to either a new preamp or potentially consider an integrated setup.

Considerations for a preamp would be Mark Levinson No. 26 or PS Audio Stellar Gold for SS. For tube is was considering McIntosh C8, CJ ET7, or Rogue Audio RP-9.

Considerations for integrated would be Hegel H390 or McIntosh MA252.

Current equipment is the Parasound A23+,Lumin D3, Elac PPA phono pre, VPI Prime and the Contour 20i.

If I go the integrated route, I could potentially move up the price point from selling the separate units.

I always appreciate your thoughts based on past experiences,  along with other options in the preamplifier/integrated brands.

vette5451

I have the Hegel 390. It is incredible and you will never need more power than it provides. Its internal DAC is quite good although I did just upgrade to the Denafrips Pontus 15th. That said I use the 390 DAC for the CD transport which I think sounds better than the Pontus ( which I use for streaming only).  A local audiophile friend who I think has literally owned every piece of high end gear ever made over the years and has listened to systems costing over $100k came over to listen.  I mentioned a bunch of future ideas I might pursue some day. He told me very directly to “pump the brakes”. That I’ve built a really wonderful system (around the 390) and I should simply enjoy it for a while. Really good advice and a compliment to the 390. The only negative I have regarding the 390 is that it only has 1 set of XLR inputs and both my turntable chain and streaming chain sound best on XLR. Which is why I might consider going to the 590 or 600 which have 2 XLR ins.  
 

Just a thought ..$2500.00 should get you a Hovland HP 100 with a MM or MC phono stage. Beautiful preamp, good sound, great for tube rolling. 

@deep_333  a) Your parasound (A23+) is not even a great piece....

b) As is with most forum guys,  you are not exactly some grand chef in the kitchen who can mix/match different preamps/power amps ...especially after age 70+ and you have no idea how to characterize the sound of things.

a) The A23+ was rated around 9/10 based on professional reviews, not anecdotal impressions from casual users / average joe like you. Under that context, it is difficult to argue that it is not a great piece of equipment.

b) You appear to assume you know the original poster well enough to discount his assessment, even referencing his age (over 70) as a basis to question his ability to characterize sound. That is an ad-hominem argument, not a technical one. Familiarity with a person’s age does not supersede objective evaluation of sound quality.

If the discussion is about audio performance, then it should be grounded in engineering, measurements, and critical listening criteria, not assumptions about the listener. Most importantly, try to control yourself and avoid personal attacks. Doing otherwise will only reflect your own shortcomings.  Do you actually understand sound reproduction well enough to refute the assessment on technical or sonic grounds?

You should strongly consider this Bryston BP26 if it’s still available if you’re looking for clarity, transparency, and an expansive 3D holographic soundstage.  It’s like the proverbial “straight wire with gain” component if that’s what you’re looking for.  I owned the BP6 that’s very similar without the external power supply and balanced inputs so very familiar with the house sound.

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650213711-bryston-bp-26-preamp-amp-mps-2-psu/

I’ll be a detractor and say you can save a lot of money by going with a budget SS preamp because they are remarkably good these days. Both the Topping A90D and A70Pro (primarily hp amps but can double as preamps) outperformed the Mac C49 in my system. They are at least as good as the Benchmark LA4 which is one of the best SS units I have encountered at any sane price. To get something appreciably better (meaning they put more effort into tuning by ear rather than just measurements), you’d need to step up to something like a Boulder, Soulution or Gryphon pre, which probably start at double your budget. One of the measurement-perfect Toppings (perhaps a SMSL also) will allow you to make a worthy upgrade to your amp, which IMO makes the greater contribution to a system’s overall performance. 

If you’re wanting to add color/character to your sound, I recommend checking out pre-owned Allnic tube preamp. 

The aforementioned Electrocompaniet ECI 6II is a good recommendation for an integrated—measures well but the designers also focused on subjective quality. It has good connections and plenty of power for most speakers. The built in DAC is no slouch either.