Newbie Maggie question: Best bang for buck?


I know I am destined to buy my first pair of Maggies soon. These will likely be my last “forever” speaker. So I want to get it right - one swing and a home run is what I need. Yet, I have more desires than I have money. Here’s (hear’s) my question:

 

In general (ahem, in general) as you go up and down the Maggie line, basically (ahem, basically) what changes is the size of the speakers and their drivers. Larger surface area = more moving air = bigger soundstage, etc.

 

BUT:

 

Other than size, what is the “sweet spot” in the Magnepan line from a technological / design perspective? In other words, where in the Maggie line can I get the most bang for my buck? Which speaker utilizes the best of Magnepan’s technological refinements, yet keeps the size and cost to a minimum?

 

Theoretically, if all Megnepans were the same size, which one would provide the best sound at the cheapest cost?

 

Thanks in advance for your sage like advice!

mhwalker

I started with the Tympani 1D in 1977 with the Audio Research SP-4 preamp and D-100A amp  - fantastic - had them for 25 years. 

Then tried the 1.7s  with Rel subs - very nice. Then the Larsen 9s. I just got the 2.7x - Wow!! What a difference - the 1.7s sounded veiled by comparison, and the Larsens didn’t have the soundstage I needed. I have a 25’x 30’ room with 13’ ceilings - they sound absolutely superb  with the Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 amp. I considered the 3.7i, but wanted something newer. Highly recommend the 2.7x if you have the space and budget. 

Thanks Gang! Y’all read my mind, that’s the kind of experiential feedback I am looking for. Shout out to Northman and Ravimaui in particular.

 

So, to help pull this thread together, what I’m hearing (ahem, pun intended) is that – basically – Maggie’s model range are more similar than they are different. There is no “giant leap for mankind” between them. General agreement is the 3.7(whatevers) may be the “technological” sweet spot.

 

HOWEVER – and please chime in on this last question – it appears that mating the size of the Magnepan to the size of the listening room may be a better approach than simply making them bigger. It may be that, a 1.7(whatever) set up correctly for room placement, may outperform a standard 3.7(whatever) in a room that’s not able to support its larger dimensional / placement needs. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta. Are we on to something here? Is that the basic general take-away?

 

So, even if I (we) have enough money to afford the 3.7’s, a properly placed and mated 1.7(whatever) may be just as good, or even better than, a 3.7(whatever) in an average size listening room and not properly set up for room placement. So, to Deep_333’s point, "upgraditis" may be held in check by the listening room itself. Agreed?

 

This thread has been very helpful. Thanks for your 2 cents (while cents last).

As I always say, it could be worse, we could be into collecting classic cars. God help you if you’re into both!

I heard the 20.1 X’s at CAF driven by the new Audio Research solid state preamp and amp. Very impressive…but do remember that the sense of imaging is very different with planars than with more point source, dynamic drivers. You don’t get pinpoint imaging, you get lateral placement in the soundstage without a sense of relative height and with less sense of depth. 
 

I would try to listen to the X version of whatever Maggie you decide on.

The .7 was considerably better sounding than the 1.7i in my room, despite the room dimensions being better suited to the 1.7 in theory. Yes, the 1.7is could dig a bit deeper in the bass, but that was all they could do better. The .7s had superior imaging, coherency, midrange and bass dynamics. 

Best thing you can do is attempt to find a dealer that sells multiple models and can facilitate an audition. 

The 3.7i and above have the true ribbon tweeter. It is indeed better sounding in the highs than the lower models. Unfortunately, it doesn’t have nearly the coherency of the .7 or LRS. Definitely doesn’t do mid-bass punch as well as the .7 either. Some of the Maggies are downright anemic when it comes to playing certain genres like hard rock. You can attempt to ameliorate that by adding a sub or two and crossing them over at the mid-bass freqs, but most subs cannot integrate correctly due to the dipole design of the Maggies.

All Maggies are incredibly finicky about placement. For example, a couple degrees difference in toe-in can make or break their tonality. IMO, there are dynamic box speakers that do nearly everything better for the same money and less fuss. 

That’s just my experience. YMMV and all that….frown


 

 

If you’re a Maggie newbie(and looking for best bang for the buck), then the elephant in the room for some of us in discussions like this is take a hard look at the Eminent Technology LFT-8b or LFT-8c and any reviews comparing any Maggie to the LFTs. With both models, but particularly the 8c, you won’t need a sub. I have the 8b model and find the off-axis response to be excellent...not at all finicky. I have a somewhat exotic speaker set that I built to give a hard listen to. If they don’t beat the LFT, then I’ll be upgrading the my 8b model to the 8c..easy to do, and inexpensive.