What's up with lousy bass on classic rock recordings?


Few examples: ACDC Back In Black, Van Halen 1, Boston (1), WHO's Next, Def Leopard Pyromania. 

The low end is almost non-existent. Digital and vinyl. 

It's not my system, I listen to a lot of jazz, other classics like Janis Ian Breaking Silence - bass is rich, full, has slam when appropriate.

Compression? Or were the low frequencies never there? Pretty disappointing. 

macg19

Another thing that helps manage expectations in regards to how recordings sound is to study the frequency range of musical instruments. There are charts on the internet that show this and I have one hanging on my wall.

16-60 hz is considered sub bass. You feel this more than hear it. Bass extends to 250 hz.

Other than synthesizers, no instruments including drums commonly used in rock music do anything below 40hz. Even a tympani drum used in orchestras only goes down to 60hz.

So there is a lot of bass happening actually on Baba O Riley but only between 50 and 250 hz. It’s mixed in with all the rest pretty reasonably I would say. It prevents the recording from sounding “thin”. To the contrary, there is a lot going on there in the bass region up to 250 hz. Just enough! So bravo….the engineers did a nice job!  Very interesting!

 

 

 

@mapman Thanks this is really interesting.

You're tagging someone else though I'm macg19 and your tagging dmac67 

@macg19 thanks.

One correction. Piano is commonly used in some rock music. A good quality standard 88 key piano can pretty much do it all. The lowest notes can reach under 20hz and the highest range up to 16khz

On Tidal you might find my playlist

audiophile bass tracks 01

Just a small selection of nice songs with fine recorded bass.

I will build on this. Like up to a thousand songs. A little for everyone I hope.

Not much classical hard rock though of obvious reasons….