I recently had an Ortofon Quintet Black rebuilt with new cantilever on down
from Soundsmith but have yet to install and listen. it looks
as good as new but until I hear it I can't speak on it, will check back.
Re-tipped stylus vs original manufacturer
How does a re-tipped stylus from, say Soundsmith or others compare to original manufacturer equipment. Assuming the stylus tip is identical and so is the material of the cantilever. I am looking at a Koetsu Black in the market with a stylus re-tipped by Soundsmith. I would think that if the re-tipped is identical, then the sound should be similar to OEM if the body and coil stays original but I could be wrong. Opinions please.
As @ghdprentice relates, most moving coil cartridges are replaced by a "new" one. I believe the old bodies are rebuilt and sold as new but it is possible that some are just dumped. Soundsmith does an excellent job of re-tipping cartridges but nobody can tell you what the sonic differences are between a factory cartridge and a re tipped one. You would have to compare the two at the same time or at least view frequency response curves. It is highly likely that most of us could not tell the difference but there is no easy way to prove that. |
I agree with @mijostyn that it is hard to know the difference, also because by the time you’re sending your cart for a retip it is starting to sound ratty. I will tell you that I am listening to a Soundmith retip Transfiguration right now and it sounds wonderful. I don’t buy used carts, but if you do, I wouldn’t worry about anything done by Soundsmith. But I think the price should be adjusted accordingly for non-factory work |
Dear @sidvicious88 : There is no way that are-tipper fix any " today " LOMC model to its original status.
Cartridge manufacturers ask to the cantilever/stylus tip premium and sometimes special parts that only that manufacturer can has. In the other side when you send to the manufacturer say A koetsu you will receive not only a new cartridge but a new cartridge with manufaturer up-grades on it that any re-tipper can know about and we have to take in count that ith top of the line cartridges the designers make listening tests ( with the designer room/system that is different on each manufacturer and certainly no re-tipper mimic any of those room/systems. ) on it and fine tunning to what they have as their own tragets/priorities on quality performance level of those cartridges.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R.
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If the Cantilever Material is identical and the selected Styli is identical as the OP is suggesting as being their assumption ? If it is also assumed that a Cart' made available from either of the mentioned services, 'Third Party or Manufacturer', is in a very similar condition to each other ? One variable that would most likely have a impact on a Sonic that has been attractive, is if a Styli is bonded to a Cantilever. The Sonic could altered, by the material chosen to attach Styli, and the mass of the material used to produce the adhesion for the Styli attachment. When looking at a few of the Third Party Services who are willing to post images of their work, it can be seen their is a willingness to use what appears to be a increased volume of a adhesive substance. Styli that are viewed as a supplied part as a pre assembled Cantilever/Styli from a Parts Supplier, does not appear to have a Volume of adhesive applied that looks to be with an excess visible. |