Why is there no love for Prima Luna?


I have noticed fairly negative comments on Prima Luna in various discussions. Granted, I’ve never heard their gear but they seem to offer quite a value proposition. Point to point wiring, auto bias, protection circuits, easy tube rolling, good parts and build quality. I had considered looking into the Evo series integrated but the brand seems to be downplayed on this forum. Anyone have direct experience as to why?
cincyhound
People hate Chinese amps but love American companies who sell custom made boxes full of Chinese parts. Hypocrisy.
Personally I could give a f*ck where its made as long as I like it.

Boomer thinking gets us nowhere.
oldhvymec is right. Its politically incorrect to say it. If we don't stop the steal then soon it will be illegal to say it. But the fact is China is the CCP. Every business in China is controlled by the CCP. Every single one. State sanctioned piracy, no rule of law, social credit scores that make every single one of its billion plus people prisoners of one sort or another. That's the truth, and straight from my friend who is a Chinese national. So don't blame me. The Chinese people themselves know the truth and its worse than we are allowed to say, even here in America.

So the only reason to buy anything made in China is either full on outright ignorance, or an obsession with cheaping out strong enough to override all that. Or both.

Its nuts because they don't even make the best amps. For that there are plenty of alternatives made right here in the USA. Better sound quality, better even on the basis of value for dollar. 

plenty of love for primaluna, some folks knock it as well, like anything else - i think the measurement crowd especially like to bash the pl amps

very good amps in absolute s.q., great value for performance and features offered

are they as good as the best tube amps that cost a lot more? i don’t think so (from personal experience i still prefer audio research and more recently, linear tube audio)

the made in china thing held against it is for real - whether justified or not;  like racism and misogyny - whether people say it out loud or not, its there, alot more folks have it in their hearts than they express for fear of backlash
Don’t forget to not buy any Chinese made cell phones, computers, etc. either, right?

It’s a global economy. That’s a fact and a good thing! We are all interconnected and can’t just ignore each other when things do not go as one might prefer. Different countries have different strengths (and weaknesses) to bring to the table. It’s freedom of choice to create the right collaboration that makes things right. It also gains one leverage to do more than merely complain perhaps when things happen elsewhere that shouldn’t. Not defending politics in China nor anywhere else. Taiwan is a great option as are other far eastern countries to partner with.

Of course everyone has the right to not buy anything from anyone they prefer not to. It all works out in the end.

Climate is also a global thing. You can choose to ignore it but when it becomes a problem, only global cooperation can address it. Good solutions to real problems that affect everyone benefit all involved.