If it were me, I would confirm that the Duo does not use op amps. But, ultimately, if you are happy, then that is all that counts. Enjoy!
OPINIONS PLEASE - Phonostage for new Rega P8/Apheta 2 - Sutherland 20/20 or Allnic 1201
OPINIONS PLEASE - Phonostage for new Rega P8/Apheta 2 - Down to Sutherland 20/20 or Allnic 1201 phonostages. Can anyone tell me anything about either? Would consider other in this price new/used but these seem pretty good.
I have got down to these two mainly for price (under $2k) and where my simple research has led.
I am big into Digital and want to play around with some decent vinyl.
Nothing crazy but good enough that my Bricasti MISE w/Built in Ethernet Media Player doesn't blow it away so I am trying to put together a decent enough vinyl front end that will sound good enough that I want to use it.
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Background:
I recently ordered new speakers that should be in a few weeks. Time for me to set up my vinyl front end to prepare for them. I am trading my Magico S5 for S5 MK II.
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Room is 12 x 23 w/Cathedral Ceilings - 15 Foot a peak - Set on long wall
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35630112@N05/46190013771/in/dateposted-public/
Music: Assorted Music no metal or loud hard rock anymore really - not much Large Scale classical either but everything else.
Likes: Transparency- Delicate-linear-Dynamic-Fast - high resolution-microscope but not sterile not etched or lifeless - I know there is a fine Line here but I'm looking to walk it and come out on the right side - but real see through into the music with some sheen and dabs of warmth - transparent to the source because I love my DAC - image and sound stage lover - tight bass - hate flab - like speed and transparency as my selection choices might speak to
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From Audiogon Virtual System page:
https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/5160
Associated Equipment:
> Digital:
- DAC: Bricasti Design M1 Special Edition DAC
- Digital Transport: Bricasti M12 Built-In Ethernet Network Player
> Analogue:
- Turntable: Rega Planer 8
- Tonearm: Rega RB880 Tonearm
- Cartridge: Rega Alpheta 2 MC
> Preamplification:
- Linestage: Simaudio Moon Evolution P-8 Reference Preamplifer
- Phonostage:TBD
> Amplification:
- Power Amplifier: Pass Labs X250.8 Stereo Amplifier
> Loudspeakers:
- Transducers: Magico S5 MKII Reference Loudspeakers MCast Pewter, (Trading S5 MK I)
> Power Supplies:
- Linear Power Supplies: Uptone Audio JS-2 (2-Rail) Linear Power Supply, The Linear Solution LPS-912 Network Switch Proprietary Linear Power Supply, Breeze Audio 12v Linear Power Supplies (2-units),
- Switching Mode Power Supplies: iFi Audio iPower 9V DC
- Turntable Power Supply: Rega Neo PSU
> AC Power:
- Conditioning: PS Audio Noise Harvesters (6)
- Outlets: Furutech GTX (R), Oyaide R1 Beryllium (2),
- Surge / Spike Protection: Blue Circle Audio The Yalu Balula
- Power Strip: PS Audio Juice Bar MK II
> Audio Network Server / Hardware / Software:
- Servers: Small Green Computer SonicTransporter,
- Storage: WD My Cloud 12v 2TB NAS,
- PC: Qotom 190S Dual-Port - Baytrail J1900 12v Micro-PC
- Network Switch: The Linear Solution OCXO Audiophile Switch,
- Audio Software: Sonic Orbiter, ROON 1.4
> Cables:
- Interconnect Cables: Kubala-Sosna Research Emotion XLR 2.0M, Kubala-Sosna Research Emotion XLR 1.5M, Darwin Ascension RCA 0.5M,
- Speaker Cables: Kubala-Sosna Research Emotion 2.5M Spades,
- AC Cables : Kubala-Sosna Emotion AC 2.0M (2) Kubala-Sosna Elation AC 1.5M, Zu Event MK I AC 1.5M (3)
- DC Cables: Gent Audio Custom DC Cables (Canare/Oyaide) (6), Upton Audio DC Cable 1M
- USB: Audiocadabra Ultimus3 Double-Head Silver USB Cable, Curious Regen link, Uptone Audio USPCB A/B USB
- Digital: Black Cat Silverstar 75 BNC/RCA 1.0M, MIT Terminator-3 RCA 1.0M, DH Labs Silver Sonic D-75 RCA 1.0M (2), Tara Labs Prism 100dx-1 Tosilink 1M.
- HDMI: AudioQuest Chocolate 1.0M, AudioQuest Forest 3.0M,
- Ethernet: AudioQuest Vodka RJ/E 1.0M, Cardas Clear RJ/E 0.5M, The Linear Solution Custom RJ/E 1.5M.
> Sundries / Accessories:
- Audio Racks: Solid Tech Hybrid 3+3 Shelves Audio Rack w/White Shelves and Silver Pillars, Solid Tech Rack of Silence Amplifier Stand
- Isolation Devices: SRA Ohio Class Isolation Platform, Symposium Acoustics Svelte Plus Isolation Platform, Isoacoustic Iso-pucks (8), Red Dragon Audio Ceramic Cable Elevators (4), EdenSound Brass Vibration Weights (8), Bright Star IsoNode Footers,
- Re-clock/Tester: DROK USB Multi-meter/Tester, Wyred 4 Sound Remedy Femto.
- Fsmithjack
I have got down to these two mainly for price (under $2k) and where my simple research has led.
I am big into Digital and want to play around with some decent vinyl.
Nothing crazy but good enough that my Bricasti MISE w/Built in Ethernet Media Player doesn't blow it away so I am trying to put together a decent enough vinyl front end that will sound good enough that I want to use it.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
Background:
I recently ordered new speakers that should be in a few weeks. Time for me to set up my vinyl front end to prepare for them. I am trading my Magico S5 for S5 MK II.
____________
Room is 12 x 23 w/Cathedral Ceilings - 15 Foot a peak - Set on long wall
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35630112@N05/46190013771/in/dateposted-public/
Music: Assorted Music no metal or loud hard rock anymore really - not much Large Scale classical either but everything else.
Likes: Transparency- Delicate-linear-Dynamic-Fast - high resolution-microscope but not sterile not etched or lifeless - I know there is a fine Line here but I'm looking to walk it and come out on the right side - but real see through into the music with some sheen and dabs of warmth - transparent to the source because I love my DAC - image and sound stage lover - tight bass - hate flab - like speed and transparency as my selection choices might speak to
____________
From Audiogon Virtual System page:
https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/5160
Associated Equipment:
> Digital:
- DAC: Bricasti Design M1 Special Edition DAC
- Digital Transport: Bricasti M12 Built-In Ethernet Network Player
> Analogue:
- Turntable: Rega Planer 8
- Tonearm: Rega RB880 Tonearm
- Cartridge: Rega Alpheta 2 MC
> Preamplification:
- Linestage: Simaudio Moon Evolution P-8 Reference Preamplifer
- Phonostage:TBD
> Amplification:
- Power Amplifier: Pass Labs X250.8 Stereo Amplifier
> Loudspeakers:
- Transducers: Magico S5 MKII Reference Loudspeakers MCast Pewter, (Trading S5 MK I)
> Power Supplies:
- Linear Power Supplies: Uptone Audio JS-2 (2-Rail) Linear Power Supply, The Linear Solution LPS-912 Network Switch Proprietary Linear Power Supply, Breeze Audio 12v Linear Power Supplies (2-units),
- Switching Mode Power Supplies: iFi Audio iPower 9V DC
- Turntable Power Supply: Rega Neo PSU
> AC Power:
- Conditioning: PS Audio Noise Harvesters (6)
- Outlets: Furutech GTX (R), Oyaide R1 Beryllium (2),
- Surge / Spike Protection: Blue Circle Audio The Yalu Balula
- Power Strip: PS Audio Juice Bar MK II
> Audio Network Server / Hardware / Software:
- Servers: Small Green Computer SonicTransporter,
- Storage: WD My Cloud 12v 2TB NAS,
- PC: Qotom 190S Dual-Port - Baytrail J1900 12v Micro-PC
- Network Switch: The Linear Solution OCXO Audiophile Switch,
- Audio Software: Sonic Orbiter, ROON 1.4
> Cables:
- Interconnect Cables: Kubala-Sosna Research Emotion XLR 2.0M, Kubala-Sosna Research Emotion XLR 1.5M, Darwin Ascension RCA 0.5M,
- Speaker Cables: Kubala-Sosna Research Emotion 2.5M Spades,
- AC Cables : Kubala-Sosna Emotion AC 2.0M (2) Kubala-Sosna Elation AC 1.5M, Zu Event MK I AC 1.5M (3)
- DC Cables: Gent Audio Custom DC Cables (Canare/Oyaide) (6), Upton Audio DC Cable 1M
- USB: Audiocadabra Ultimus3 Double-Head Silver USB Cable, Curious Regen link, Uptone Audio USPCB A/B USB
- Digital: Black Cat Silverstar 75 BNC/RCA 1.0M, MIT Terminator-3 RCA 1.0M, DH Labs Silver Sonic D-75 RCA 1.0M (2), Tara Labs Prism 100dx-1 Tosilink 1M.
- HDMI: AudioQuest Chocolate 1.0M, AudioQuest Forest 3.0M,
- Ethernet: AudioQuest Vodka RJ/E 1.0M, Cardas Clear RJ/E 0.5M, The Linear Solution Custom RJ/E 1.5M.
> Sundries / Accessories:
- Audio Racks: Solid Tech Hybrid 3+3 Shelves Audio Rack w/White Shelves and Silver Pillars, Solid Tech Rack of Silence Amplifier Stand
- Isolation Devices: SRA Ohio Class Isolation Platform, Symposium Acoustics Svelte Plus Isolation Platform, Isoacoustic Iso-pucks (8), Red Dragon Audio Ceramic Cable Elevators (4), EdenSound Brass Vibration Weights (8), Bright Star IsoNode Footers,
- Re-clock/Tester: DROK USB Multi-meter/Tester, Wyred 4 Sound Remedy Femto.
- Fsmithjack
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@fsmithjack Fantastic deal on really fine AQ interconnects NEW with 72 volt DBS system. MusicDirect has the AQ Colorado 1meter RCAs for $360/meter pair. That's ½ their original selling price! Colorado uses PSC+ copper with FEP (Teflon) air tube dielectric. I have my entire system wired with them. They aren't going anywhere. |
edwyun Thanks - yes it has a couple op amps but I am more worried about the best sound per buck. I would prefer discrete but fear this level of performance with all discrete will cost much more. It is my first "Real Concerted" foray into vinyl so learning as I go. I know my Bricasti / Simaudio / Pass / Kubala / Magico combo sounds amazing so I was hoping to get a Table/Cart/Phono/IC/AC cable set up to be compelling enough to get up and load another record vs just flipping the input on the remote and grabbing the Iphone/Roon to my way to another to another track instead. hifiman5 How are those AQ Colorado? Are they real good? Thats a great price if the performance is strong enough that would be amazing. . |
If you like your Pass Labs component now, I think you would like the XP15 (now discontinued) or the XP17 (its successor). You can find used XP15's on Audiogon for $2,500 periodically. Best decision I made was the Pass Labs XP15. It far outclassed the Rega RP6. When I finally made the decision to be in/out of vinyl, I went for the RP10 with the Apheta 2, and it's a great match for the XP15. I think the RP8 is close to the RP10 in sound, and the cartridge you are proposing is exactly the same as the one I have. Sounds great-- but only on well recorded music. |
Love your system. I got back into vinyl several yrs ago and love it. I am using an Allnic h-3000 and know you would be very pleased with the Allnic product. I like the blend of tubes an s.s particularly with preamp and phonostage. A close friend has the Sutherland product and is very happy. I also have an Allnic l-3000 pre that I switch out with my edge sig 1.1 pre. Best wishes |
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