The quest for sound vs. music


 The quest for perfect sound Is so voracious that it devours the enjoyment of music.  
After you’ve reached a point where you can enjoy music on your system, no more tweaks are necessary. Any further improvements are superfluous.  The problem Is, if Hifi is your hobby you want to actively involve yourself in it.  You can’t sit back and leave it alone.  If you stop twiddling with it, it ceases to be an active hobby. That’s where the contradiction is.  The enjoyment of music ceases to be the goal.  The “hobby” predominates.
If you can listen for the music, everything falls into place.  The work you’ve done assembling your system has paid off and you can revel in how beautiful the music is.

But, your hobby is over.
128x128rvpiano
You can always move on to obsessing over collecting as many quality vinyl records as possible ;-) My balance between gear and music is shifting in that direction.
I would have to agree with three easy here.
i am very happy with my system right now to the point that I am now replacing some older records with better examples and even mofi recordings.
listening to John Klemmer as I type this and feel the need to change nothing.....
I might even go as far as to say that it is music that is the hobby and that the hifi and the media are just tools to enable the hobby of music.
So truly you should never be done with the hobby of music.

Just my musings as sitting here enjoying Toto.
My overall goal is to enhance my listening experience. I feel at this point I have the room, electronics to satisfy me in order to enjoy my listen sessions.

You have to have these two things pretty much to your liking before more focus can be on more great music, which I’ve been doing.

There’s nothing wrong with working on decoupling at this point which further enhances the experience and brings your electronics (which you have a great investment in) to a higher degree of transparency.

Right now, my spending and motivation is focused on music more than equipment.

It’s up to each individual listener to the degree they are satisfied.
I see uberwaltz's observation and double it.  To me, it's the music that is the obsession.  From the material itself to the means of reproducing it...and that includes playing a couple...okay, more than a couple...of musical instruments.
Around 30 years ago, I bought a Pioneer direct drive tt. Later on I met a guy who introduced me to the (high end). There was at that time an importer in California called Japanese Stereo. I bought my first cart from them. It was a Denon 103, for $55.00, half the retail elsewhere. When I installed it, it was a revelation! Then I discovered MFSL. I bought my first from them, Led Zeppelin. WOW! I was hooked! Then I knew how much a quality record could enhance a listening experience. BTW, back then, MFSL, single lps were $12.99.

I know exactly what ignited my initial lust for a better hi-fi: I heard an ESL for the first time (though it was only a tweeter: the three RTR’s in the ESS Transtatic). The ESL transparency revealed so much more of the music that was on my LP’s, making the music more emotionally and intellectually engaging, moving---satisfying. Once you’ve experienced that, you want to do everything you can to remove as much of the veil between you and the music as possible. THAT has always been my goal, though great sound is thrilling in it’s own right, especially soundstage and deep bass!

Sometimes it feels more like a curse: unlike civilians, an audiophile can’t separate the sound of music from the music itself. But while all music is sound, not all sound is music. The writing of Art Dudley introduced me to the idea of listening for the musical character of a hi-fi component, not merely it’s sonic one: how a component can effect the music itself, apart from "the sound" of the music.

J. Gordon Holt wrote about hi-fi as sort of the sonic equivalent of photography. Yes, musical reproduction and photography share many similarities; but photography is static, while music has it’s temporal component. Gordon’s number one hi-fi priority was getting the instrumental and vocal timbres accurate: the lack of coloration (as in getting color temperature correct in photography). His second was that of transparency (resolution in photography). Art’s priority was getting the temporal component of music---it’s timing---correct. To him, everything else was secondary.

Art faulted Gordon for insisting that his priorities were the "correct" ones, the one’s that define hi-fi. Art argued that though important, lack of coloration is but one aspect of high quality music reproduction, and not necessarily the most important. And that a components abilities at reproducing musical timing also greatly effected one's perception of the music being reproduced, and in a more profound way that the "mere" matters of lack of coloration and transparency. I had acquired my hi-fi wisdom from the writings of Gordon, but Art changed my way of thinking. And my appreciation of reproduced music is the better for it.

@rvpiano is right.  If you're on this forum, you're very likely invested in both the gear and the music.  The proportion in investment (emotional, but I suppose also financial) between the two will vary with each one of us, AND it will vary in a given individual over time.  So most generalities are off.  If you like new or different gear, and surely most of us do, then there will be an endorphin high when a piece arrives.  Most of us can't indulge that craving too frequently.  While also enjoying the music, there's also an acquisitive/collecting side to that too.  Who hasn't also got a high from finding a long-sought recording or scoring a rare disc of some sort.  In other words, it's complicated.
Slaw:

Most of my recent posts are in the music forum.
As I’ve already said, There’s nothing wrong with improving one’s system.
 I’ve certainly done it with the help of this forum.
  I’m simply saying that if the search for perfect sound is the ultimate goal, it can get in the way of your enjoyment of music.
Highly evolved systems over time and experience, give you sound you like most.

After you reach a plateau, just relax and enjoy the musical experiences of great sound.

No need to further obsess over equipment. Today’s equipment is all you will ever need.

True sonic breakthroughs are very rare now.
I think that there are those who never upgrade unless something breaks, and then others that swap out their speakers every couple of months, but most of us are pretty reasonable, and to answer rvpiano, I think that reasonable audiophiles go through cycles of tweaking/component change periodically, and then fairly long periods of satisfaction and musical enjoyment during which they don't really give serious thought to upgrades. I know that's how it goes for me, and I get he feeling it's that way for many others from comments I read.
roxy54
... I think that reasonable audiophiles go through cycles of tweaking/component change periodically, and then fairly long periods of satisfaction and musical enjoyment during which they don’t really give serious thought to upgrades. I know that’s how it goes for me, and I get he feeling it’s that way for many others from comments I read.
I think you’re absolutely correct. While there is the stereotype of the audiophile who’s always changing equipment (like the guy posting on Agon who’s always swapping amplifiers), I think it’s just a caricature. There’s not a lot of incentive to upgrade once you reach a certain level of performance.

Technology often drives my upgrades, even though I’m not an early adopter.
don_c55
Highly evolved systems over time and experience, give you sound you like most ... True sonic breakthroughs are very rare now
Exactly.