Originals are almost always better more air etc. |
It's hit and miss. That goes for used, reissued or new. Here's one I just received from MFSL that is scary quiet: Dead Can Dance "Into The Labyrinth". I have to say that all of the MFSL Silver Label reissues I've recently bought have been exceptional, so I'm pretty happy with them. They all have low--below 300--stamping numbers which may have much to do with their quality. Good luck searching. |
Taking into account inflation an Lp that cost $5.98 in 1970 translates into $34 today!
Record collecting is "TODAY", equal or less cost, for new records!
There are many new pressings for less than $20.
If you want deals, look used! Quality production is variable now because pressing good LPs is a lost art. The experts from the past are dead! |
I'm just not interested in *any* Lps at $30 to $50 each. Guess I'm not a true audiophile. |
You all weren't real helpful and to any one looking into getting into vinyl your responses were kind of flippant. Someone wondering whether to purchase $50 new LP's wouldn't be too encouraged to start based on what you've said. Kind of hurting yourself if you truly love vinyl. Not trying to cause trouble but vinyl lovers seem to sing the praises of records then continually discuss a litany of difficult and expensive steps one must take to enjoy them. By the way I do enjoy vinyl and some records sound good some don't. Good sounding records sound good even on my old Phillips turntable bad sound bad. I haven't bought a NEW LP in twenty years. Cheap ones at flea markets are low risk and large reward when you find a GOOD ONE. |
Trehane, I understand what you are getting at and have found that some manufacturers of "new" vinyl face the problems of sloppy execution that plague many products. Some high-priced LPs have arrived with warped edges (which can be put down to pulling the LP off the machine too early), improperly placed labels, etc. Most, however, have been very quiet, beautifully pressed and wonderful reissues of almost-impossible-to find classics.
so, while we should expect the best unfortunately the results do not always meet the highest mark. |
I was perhaps a little unclear in my post. I'm not new to vinyl - just to "new" vinyl and to this forum. I have been listening to vinyl since the late 50's though not critically for many of those years. I have about 2,000 albums so I am familiar with clicks and pops and imperfections.
What I was not clear on was the quality I could expect from "new" vinyl pressings in the $50 - $120 range compared to older records I have been buying for $0.50-$5. I took mofi's advice and read everything I could find that was already posted. That information and the other posts on this thread have given me the information I was seeking. In future, I'll be sure to read everything I can find before asking a question. |
I was also brought up on the clicks and pops of vinyl not to mention other anomalies . But once CD players and DAC's improved I became less tolerant of these issues . Eventually I parted with my analog rig , no regrets . |
After being out of vinyl for 25 years I can understand how some my have trouble adapting to some of the imperfections of vinyl. Warping, noise and the occasional bad pressing. The only thing that really pisses me off is a when a company puts out a bad pressing where it appears that the entire run is defective (like the Radiohead Capital reissue). It would also be nice if the prices were a little cheaper. I would take a thinner record, as long as it was relatively flat and quality vinyl, if it would keep the price down. $20-$60 is kind of steep when you are trying to build a collection. |
We sometimes forget that there is a whole generation of people whom were raised on the CD medium or digital age. Myself i was brought up listening to vinyl so Im accustomed to the meduim and its flaws. I enjoy vinyl and its suttle clicks and the only time I really notice anything is when its a quite passage. I will say this though, as an adult I have been blessed with an above average analog front end which only inhances the experience. |
I understand how new to vinyl feel people, been there done that. The following may help. On your main system only listen to vinyl for a few weeks. Give your ears a chance to adjust to the surface noise inherent to the format. With any luck you will began hear beyond the pops and clicks and enjoy the format. |
Schipo,
Amen brother. Nicely stated. |
why not just face the issue at hand. We are dealing with vinyl and if you don't like noise such as clicks,ticks and pops then listen to CD.I'm amazed at all that are looking for perfectly pressed quiet pressings.Science can't produce a perfect LP unless we replace the tonearm and cartridge with something else. Laser players have there own set of problems with LP's needing to be kept almost hygienically clean.So get used to it,or get out of vinyl play...there's noise its mechanical and that's that. |
If your bottom feeding as you say then you get what you pay for. People mostly part with less than perfect pressings.let them become somebody else's headache.
I stay away from Blue Note re issues,they do not imo sound all that great and the quality leaves alot to be desired. Most of your high end pressings are of 180 or 200 gram pressings which means if you are not compensating for vinyl thickness and adjusting your tonearm VTA your throwing your money away.
I remember a poster posting how horrible the MCA Audiophile pressing of Who's Next was awful,sounded like Daltry was in another room when the vocal recordings were done. I love this paticular pressing and told him to adjust the VTA and next thing ya know he's like saying Daltry is front and center and in his face now and he sounds like he's leading the band.
Sundazed is a place I buy alot from,they are priced between the re issues an audiophile pressing and feel they are good quality for the money.They are remastered using Tube equipment and the packaging is pretty good. |
I have had mixed blessings myself. I also found later pressings to sound comparable to the early ones with better vinyl composition. Many later sound cleaner and make a rather enjoyable listening experience on the cheap. |
Sorry to be trite, but this subject has been beaten to death on the forums here. Do a search and read all of the info.
I, myself, have had tremendous success with all the new reissues and I buy most of them. Others will claim the opposite... |
