Does anyone use wood for vibration control?


What kind of wood have you found to be best?
bksherm
I feel a strong urge to make a pun about Marconi and Macaroni, but I'm just gonna log off until the urge subsides.
Jburden, that’s the book my info came from. Eat more fish. 🐟🐠🐡

”He’s just a great writer.” Yeah, it really sunk in, I can tell. 🤗
jburidan,

The link starts with "inventor of wireless", but I think that was heavily challenged some time ago. I do not know about intricacies of those arguments, but Tesla had a patent for radio in 1940s.

I should log off, too. I should have many months ago, in fact.

“If I could explain it to the average Joe they wouldn’t have given me the Nobel prize.”

Guglielmo Marconi
The Nobel Prize in Physics 1909

Born: 25 April 1874, Bologna, Italy

Died: 20 July 1937, Rome, Italy

Affiliation at the time of the award: Marconi Wireless Telegraph Co. Ltd., London, United Kingdom

Prize motivation: "in recognition of their contributions to the development of wireless telegraphy."

Prize share: 1/2

Work

In the late 1880s a previously unknown type of radiation was discovered - radio waves. It was found to have the same nature as light, but with a greater wavelength. Various physicists and technicians investigated whether radio waves could be used to transmit signals. In 1895, Guglielmo Marconi used radio waves to transmit signals over a distance of several kilometers. He developed the technology in subsequent years to achieve greater range. The foundation for both wireless telegraphy and radio had been laid.

uberwaltz,

geoffkait and I are both serious.
And that is exactly what is most disturbing...…..
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Very nicely put Geoff.

It truly does sum it up imho.

One needs to accept that not everything can be tuned, there can be some glaring problems that need resolving before you can tune.
Uh, oh, I’m getting a bad feeling. Somebody else didn’t think my post was nicely put or summed it up very well. 😛
Jeez
That was probably one of your more restrained and refined posts!
Cannot see how anybody could have taken umbrage with it.

What a strange path we walk.....
I know, right? It was the very model of restraint. What is the name of all that’s sacred is going on? Am I a pariah? Did MG rat me out? Is there collusion afoot? I cry foul! 

After testing the Springs, Brass Cones, Other selected Cones (other materials) I ended back with the LTR Tuning Blocks on the BP LTR Platform, and this all sits on BP LTR Tuning Rails.

I'm going to let things settle more before I use the Top Tune Canopy. When finished the CDP will have Top and Bottom transfers. This may sound new to some of you but if you want to visit TuneLand you can see pictures.

Listening to some John Klemmer at the moment.

Michael Green

Careful Geoff... We do not need to you to do an impression of one of England's funniest music "stars" 
Buster Bloodvessel .. Yep seriously, lol.
Mg.

I have a selection of toys to play with along the lines you have described.

I have Myrtle wooden blocks, brass cones, ceramic cones and lamp black glass balls/ footers.

My 2 areas of attack in my mind were my integrated amp and/or cdp.

Which have you found to yield greatest changes of those pair of pieces of equipment?
As McMurphy admonished the other inmates in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest when he failed to lift the 300 pound water cooler - at least I tried. My only nit is that if you wish to be a member in good standing in the Isolation Club you should probably take a short course that describes how springs must be selected according to their springs rates and according to the load under which they are put. A very stiff spring would be great for a heavy component but poor for a lighter one, and vice versa. The math is not very difficult. I’d be happy to tutor you.
geoffkait,

I suggest you read a bit about Tesla's work, too. If for nothing else, but because Marconi was using a number of his patents for his work. Seventeen, if I remember correctly but I may be way off (many years have passed since I was in early grades of elementary school where I learned it).

I am not trying to argue about it in any way, but the story, with all of its twists and turns, is not as simple as it seems and, check it for yourself, Tesla actually did get awarded patent for radio.

There is a number of, often romanticized, stories about those events on the Internet so "cum grano salis" applies.

Hi uberwaltz

If you want give me a list of your equipment again and let me take a look at how they're built. Also what are they sitting on (shelving wise)?

Would be nice to do a few tune ups on Agon so people can see how easy it is.

MG

MG.

Amp is Ayre EX8
Cdp is C.E.C 3100

Rack is homemade.
Consists of 4 x 24×18x2 maple shelves basically with all thread at all 4 corners so infinitely adjustable for height and level.
But this means all shelves are not individual isolated.
Which is why I wanted to try different footers etc under the main components.

One day I will get round to building a better mousetrap! Really the legs I would like to come up with something better.
glupson2,017 posts04-29-2019 9:34pmgeoffkait,

I suggest you read a bit about Tesla’s work, too. If for nothing else, but because Marconi was using a number of his patents for his work. Seventeen, if I remember correctly but I may be way off (many years have passed since I was in early grades of elementary school where I learned it).

>>>>I’ll go with your notion that you may be way off and leave it at that. 
geoffkait,

Go with whatever you feel appropriate.

In fact, I think that was Tesla himself who said to his nephew something to the effect of "Marconi is a good guy, he is using seventeen of my patents." Of course, those were tales told to children so they may not be true.

Hi uberwaltz

I'm doing a system over seas right now so will be back when I'm done with him, but I did get to look up your components. I like them!! They should tune up nicely.

see you in a few unless they keep me a while, if so I'll come up tomorrow

MG

MG

I would like to read an updated version of Music Reviews within your Forum.  Happy Listening!

Re Marconi vs Tesla.

(Of course Tesla also was known for his work on DC power.)

Marconi won the Nobel prize for wireless communication. Marconi was the first to achieve trans Atlantic radio communication. While it’s true Tesla applied for lots of patents for radio communication he was never able to achieve long distance radio communication. 

“There, he (Tesla) conducted experiments with a large coil operating in the megavolts range, producing artificial lightning (and thunder) consisting of millions of volts and discharges of up to 135 feet (41 m) in length,[146] and, at one point, inadvertently burned out the generator in El Paso, causing a power outage.[147] The observations he made of the electronic noise of lightning strikes, led him to (incorrectly) conclude[148][149] that he could use the entire globe of the Earth to conduct electrical energy.

During his time at his laboratory, Tesla observed unusual signals from his receiver which he speculated to be communications from another planet. He mentioned them in a letter to a reporter in December 1899[150] and to the Red Cross Society in December 1900.[151][152]Reporters treated it as a sensational story and jumped to the conclusion Tesla was hearing signals from Mars.[151] He expanded on the signals he heard in a 9 February 1901 Collier’s Weekly article entitled "Talking With Planets", where he said it had not been immediately apparent to him that he was hearing "intelligently controlled signals" and that the signals could come have from Mars, Venus, or other planets.[152] It has been hypothesized that he may have intercepted Guglielmo Marconi’s European experiments in July 1899—Marconi may have transmitted the letter S (dot/dot/dot) in a naval demonstration, the same three impulses that Tesla hinted at hearing in Colorado[152]—or signals from another experimenter in wireless transmission.[1]”

Hi uberwaltz

With the 3100, I would take off the cover and remove the dampening strips. Remove the feet of course. The wire tie back by the transformer I would snip and spread apart those wires. Same for the wires all tied together in the front. Spread those wires apart from each. Since the top cover is gone let them stick above outside of the chassis. Next loosen the screws on the PC board just a little. On this unit you can remove the transformer from the chassis (up to you). If you did take the power button away from the front panel and move it behind or off to the side of the chassis you could get rid of the shielding.

I would start with the Myrtle blocks under both of these units. Once things are loosened up (I would also recommend loosening your wall outlets) pop on some music and let the system open itself up for about a week and let me know what you're hearing. At that point I can guide you in one direction or the other. What I tell folks is open up the signal then tune it back in. The more it is opened the wider the range will be when you go to tune back in. If it sounds weird during that week or so don't worry that's just the system adopting more energy and adapting (settling).

next the Ayre

Michael Green

The EX8

Just like the CDP but a couple more things. I would cut away the insulators on the wire (that's the extra wrap that was slid on before the soldering was done). See the ribbon wire is folded? Straighten out that crease, you don't want folds in any ribbon wire. This has great sounding PC Boards BTW. I'd like to see a closeup of the stand offs to see exactly how that is implemented. The transformer can go up on a tuning block.

A question about your rack rods. Are they zinc or mild steel? And the screws on the PCB and transformer are they stainless steel or zinc?

MG

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It’s unfortunate that Tesla didn’t have quanta back in his day :(

That's not to say there were no quanta, but there were few mechanics.
Just what we need. Another comedian.

A photon checks into a hotel. The bellhop asks, “Can I take your luggage?” The photon replies, “I don’t have luggage. I’m traveling light!”
More! I knew geoffkait can post something worth repeating.

During the kindergarten field trip, that is.

More!

Let us young people enjoy the wit, if we cannot find wisdom.
geoffkait,

You have made a good start on Marconi/Tesla story. Study some more, you will not regret it. Remember, there is a lots of bias and convenient attempts at ignoring facts on both sides of that story so being very critical while reading is of essence.



"...led him to (incorrectly) conclude that he could use the entire globe of the Earth to conduct electrical energy."
Who knows if that was truly incorrect. Even if it was, on an audiophile forum, we should cut him some slack for coming up with remote control. Kind of what D-113CR had.

NikolaTesla legacy. At least he tried. This is all apparently another case of glubson following the wrong sheep. 🐑 🐑 🐑 🚶‍♂️

Nikola Tesla annual electric vehicle rally in Croatia[279]

Tesla, a 26 kilometer-wide crater on the far side of the moon[284]

"Tesla Girls", a song by British pop band Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, released in 1984

SS Nikola Tesla, a Liberty Shiplaid down 31 August 1943, launched 25 September 1943, sold from government service in 1947, and scrapped 1970

2244 Tesla, a minor planet[284]

Tesla, an SI-derived unit of magnetic flux density (or magnetic inductivity)

Tesla, an American rock band formed in Sacramento, California, in late 1982

Tesla, an electrotechnical conglomerate in the former Czechoslovakia

Tesla, Inc, an American electric car manufacturer[270]


Getting back to the subject (briefly) have I mentioned my latest breakthrough? Oh, it’s big. Big big. Bigger than big. You see, as it turns out the %&@!# CD, that thin wimpy out of round wafer of plastic and sputtered metal flutters and vibrates and rings like crazy. There is no way the error correct routines and laser servo mechanism can keep up! This is one of the main problems audiophiles who listen to CDs face, it’s no wonder they have been frustrated with the generic, compressed and blurry sound of CDs generally. And who knew? Background scattered light and CD vibration have been holding audiophiles back for almost 40 years. All that is about to change. 

Gasps with anticipation...…..

When do we mere mortals get to see/hear this revelation?
OK, here’s what I’m going to do. I will provide the new Mystery CD Tweak free (that’s right - free!) to everyone who purchases New Dark Matter at full price. LIMITED TIME OFFER! How ‘bout them apples? But for right now it’s very hush hush.
@geoffkait 

My turntable sits on a 40lb sand filled box (Baltic Birch Ply) The "box" sits on a the shelf I built which is attached to the wall. Bought some springs today and am going to place them between the box and the shelf. Am currently using sorbothane semi circles

Hopefully I am going to notice a difference :)


geoffkait,

You should really study a bit harder. Your Tesla legacy list is missing a few reasonably important items.

I would write you a letter of recommendation, but I doubt that my 2nd grade teacher is still in business.
Breaking gnus 🐑 🐑 🐑 🚶‍♂️!!!

"Background scattered light and CD vibration have been holding audiophiles back for almost 40 years. All that is about to change."
The master is about to announce the arrival of streaming.

Not a decade too late.

It certainly makes sense that you would back a two time loser. But he was a good guy. At least he had a candy named after him.

Is it true that streaming is for lazy frustrated older guys?