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Rogue Audio two new integrateds Great or Same old?

Rogue has recently introduced two new integrated amps. The "Sphinx" which is 100RMS and a hybrid amp with a phono stage. This sells for $1395 including a cheap looking remote. The "Pharoah" is the other and is 175RMS with phono stage, but may be all tubes Rogue is now shipping to dealers and retail is $3495. Rogue has definitely gone Egyptian!!

Has anyone heard either integrated amp?? If so, what my the Pharoah worth almost 3X more than the little brother.Seems to have few features like an I-pod input and theater bypass, etc, that jack the price at least $500. Therefore I think the price point is wrong. $2795 seems more reasonable and competitive with products like the Creek Destiny II $2795) and Krell S300i($2500) and the new Musical Fidelity IA's.... Thanks, Jimmy
sunnyjim
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I should have ask before: where does the Rogue Cronus Magnum fit into this integrated amp pecking order. It cost $1200 less than the "The Pharoah" ($2295 vs.$3495)I know the CM is an all tube design, and less power. Would like to know what the sound the from Cronus Magnus is like, I never used a tube amp or integrated. Thanks, Jim
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I've been very impressed with my Pharaoh demo unit so far. Still have a few more hours to put on it before it's fully broken in, but it sounds very, very good.

***Rogue dealer disclaimer***
donjr
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The Cronus Magnum is a fantastic integrated and its actually quite amazing how good it sounds considering its price. With my Harbeth C7ES3's it's a bit on the warm side of neutral. The sound stage is fairly wide. I sit off axis and its not a problem at all but then I'm not a critical listener. What I mean by that is my rig doesn't do anything that offends my hearing ever.

I had new Rotel separates before the Rogue and I couldn't stand more than 20 minutes with the shrill horrible noise. That system was the reason for the Cronus. The build quality is very good but its not audio jewelry. I'm hoping Goldprintaudio chimes in here because I'm not good at this and he or she is a Rogue dealer for a reason.
sunnyjim OP
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To Donjr: Thank you for your input about the CM. You did a good job describing its sound quality.
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As Donjr mentions, the Cronus Mag is an incredible value (as is the Sphinx). The Pharaoh is very impressive so far, and I am sure will get better as it has a few more hours on it.

I guess it really comes down to your specific power requirements and if you want to go full blown tubes (Cronus) or hybrid.

And to Donjr's earlier question, the Pharaoh really does not run hot at all.
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