HRS M3X isolation base or Minus-K?


Hi All,

I'm looking for some input about these two platforms under a non-suspended turntable. Anyone have experience with both?

I have a Brinkmann Oasis on the way, for which HRS makes a custom platform. I could buy a Minus-K MB100-8 at roughly the same cost.

Minus-Ks are a known quantity to me because I've used them under two non-suspended decks with great results. I have no experience with the M3X. Either platform will sit on an Adona rack, spiked to a concrete floor.

Minus-K does a great job of isolating from external resonance, especially in the vertical plane, but does nothing for self-noise from the turntable. I found that an additional shelf is needed between the turntable and top-plate of the Minus-K, both to damp this source of resonance and to add enough weight to reach the upper range-limit of the suspension for best performance. An Adona multi-element shelf (granite bonded to MDF) resting upon Vibrapods works very well. (Vibrapods, believe it or not, were better than anything else I tried, including myriad combinations of sorbothane disks, Herbie's Big Fat Dots, etc.)

My sense is that the multiple damping layers of the HRS would address this self-noise better than the Minus-K in combination with an Adona shelf and Vibrapods, but I'm not sure. On the other hand, the HRS almost certainly will not be as effective against external resonance as the Minus-K.

I'm kind of tempted to go with the HRS because Brinkmann recommends it, and because HRS told me in an email, "We know the Oasis table very well. Our custom designs...are based on direct experience with this turntable. Our chief engineer is currently using this table as one of his test turntables."

It's a conundrum.

I welcome any suggestions but I'm especially interested in direct experience comparing these two platforms.

Thanks,
Bill
wrm57
Hi Scott, thanks for the response. Both brands are unfamiliar to me. I'll look into them.

--Bill
Sbrown wrote,

"The guy with just the bases added subs to his system last year. For logistical reasons, he had to place his tube amp on top of one of the subs. He stuck the SRA between the amp and sub and has never had an issue."

I think I probably would have tried to come up with a little bit better location. He never had an issue that he was aware of, anyway.
I whole heartily agree that the location was less than optimal. I posted it because it’s a testament to how effective the Silent Running bases are at isolating a component. I wouldn’t try that with a chunk of maple masquerading as an isolation device.
If you are open to more suggestions, I would add Vibraplane to the list. I have three active units under my turntable and each amp. They are extremely effective.
There is a drastic mismatch between the claimed technical / analytical claims of Mr. Sprey and the products he puts forth. Further, the writing and claims of these products are absolutely ridiculous and devoid of any real scientific reality.

Another note, any claim of a single person being "the designer" of the F-16 should be met with a very healthy dose of skepticism. There is no single "designer" of any product like this, and verbiage intimating or directly claiming such says a lot about the claimant.