HRS M3X isolation base or Minus-K?


Hi All,

I'm looking for some input about these two platforms under a non-suspended turntable. Anyone have experience with both?

I have a Brinkmann Oasis on the way, for which HRS makes a custom platform. I could buy a Minus-K MB100-8 at roughly the same cost.

Minus-Ks are a known quantity to me because I've used them under two non-suspended decks with great results. I have no experience with the M3X. Either platform will sit on an Adona rack, spiked to a concrete floor.

Minus-K does a great job of isolating from external resonance, especially in the vertical plane, but does nothing for self-noise from the turntable. I found that an additional shelf is needed between the turntable and top-plate of the Minus-K, both to damp this source of resonance and to add enough weight to reach the upper range-limit of the suspension for best performance. An Adona multi-element shelf (granite bonded to MDF) resting upon Vibrapods works very well. (Vibrapods, believe it or not, were better than anything else I tried, including myriad combinations of sorbothane disks, Herbie's Big Fat Dots, etc.)

My sense is that the multiple damping layers of the HRS would address this self-noise better than the Minus-K in combination with an Adona shelf and Vibrapods, but I'm not sure. On the other hand, the HRS almost certainly will not be as effective against external resonance as the Minus-K.

I'm kind of tempted to go with the HRS because Brinkmann recommends it, and because HRS told me in an email, "We know the Oasis table very well. Our custom designs...are based on direct experience with this turntable. Our chief engineer is currently using this table as one of his test turntables."

It's a conundrum.

I welcome any suggestions but I'm especially interested in direct experience comparing these two platforms.

Thanks,
Bill
wrm57

Showing 6 responses by wrm57

Rsf507, I know Vibraplanes are a great option. I'm a bit put off by the idea of bladders and compressed air, probably because I had an irritating time with a leaky seismic sink long ago. No comparison between the two products, I know, but still.

Geoffkait, That's a good point about the importance of low frequency structural isolation. Minus-K reduces to 0.5 Hz vertically, much lower than HRS, which I think is 5 Hz.
Yeah, I'm especially convinced by "invariably" and "ditto."

Anyone have experience with the HRS M3X platforms? They're the unknown quantity to me.
Myles, I'd be interested in your opinion on the OP question about HRS platforms and Minus-K. You've probably listened to more turntables on isolation platforms than most of us.
Hey Mark,

Jeff told me you've been in touch. Glad things are working out. I just couldn't resist another turntable!

Bill
Hi Scott, thanks for the response. Both brands are unfamiliar to me. I'll look into them.

--Bill