Are the Nitty Gritty vacuum cleaners...


...worth the three plus bills that they cost? Any owners out there that can provide input?--Cheers
jmoog08
Well, I agree with Johnjbarlow's thinking, but not his conclusion.

The VPI 16.5 might be slightly better, but only if you don't wash the records by hand first. If you do, they work about the same, IMHO. In terms of how they vacuum clean, they work about the same. (In fact, with the NG, you have gravity working for you, not against you.)

A new VPI costs double the cost of a new NG, because the VPI has a motor for turning the platter, and it iis built more aesthetically pleasing, as it looks more like a piece of furniture, as opposed to the Nitty Gritty which is built rather cheaply. (Basically the NG is built out of pressboard.) However the NG's last for a long, long time. (I am the second owner of my NG 1.0, and I have used it for about 4 years, and the owner before me used it for years before that.)

Where I agree with Johnjbarlow is buying a RCM used. I bought my NG 1.0 used for $100, and I just bought a used Record Doctor used for $90. That brings the price down to 1/3 of the price of a used VPI, and it surely does almost as good a job, if not every bit as good.

Now, if you want a truly better RCM, go with the Loricraft, at only $2.5K. (Me?, I'm sticking with my NG until I have fully upgraded my system, and then, and only then, I'll leapfrog the VPI RCM's and get the Loricraft.)

My two cents worth anyway.
Amazing that you can get a top quality washing machine for your clothes for less than the price of a wet record cleaner. Maybe it has to do with economies of scale, but oh my audiophiles can't accept that those also apply to audio equipment. Strange how people slice and dice reality to suit, no?
This has been discussed many times check here:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr_srch.pl?&1&procsrch&3&4&

I have had both the VPI 16.5 and a couple of different versions of Nitty Gritty. Record Dr., 1.5fi, 2.5 fi.
I prefer the Nitty Gritty. They suck down which IMO is preferable to vacuuming up as in VPI.

They are much smaller and more aesthetically pleasing. Sorry Kurt, VPI looks like something you would find in an industrial setting. Nitty Grittys fit on a normal size, 12" shelf and can be bought with a nice real wood grain finish.
It'll be a rare instance when a mechanical machine can perform a task better (quality) than one can with his hands (e.g. Bread Machine, Car Wash, Dish Washer, etc.) I believe most automation is implemented to save time; not for a higher quality output. My point: wash 'em and vacuum your records by hand. Save some dough and get SUPER clean records. Yes, it will take longer and involve more work on your behalf.

I guess you'll have to decide which is a more scarce commodity for you (time v. money) in the context of the value of having your records be the cleanest they can be.