Who has heard & compared the good tables?


Many Audiogoners will espouse their own rig - and that's understandable. But who actually has heard well setup and equipped tables like the higher-end Teres, Basis, Linn, Well Tempered and others - and compared them? Without bias?

Please tell us what table really stands out; your words could mean a lot to many of us!

Best,
George
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Geoege
All I can tell you is while wondering the same thing it appears that among the mdeols you mentioned it is the Teres that has them,ost raves and trdes in's towards it.I won a $5K VPI rig for certain reason (time and place aI bought while working in a hifi shop,liking tube swap though there are other multi arm sets up yet they cost more to pay for second or third arm I do know that SME makes swapable head shellls.Think Graham might have tube swap).But I think Teres has gotten nod for easy towork on kit models or full builts that offere more on a DOLLAR to DOLLAR comparison.Other factors are going to affect choices like Apples and Oranges.A sprung Linn (I have one in second rig vintage 1983 un-upgraded with a Grace arm) will be the be all to one person but a Rega 9 which is super rigid and has tighjt tollerances will sound TOTALLY different with same cartridge.My own personal take is peoiple put to much stock in the tabel anyway.Your cartridge and phono sectionm will have bigger effect and in most cases an amr will mean more to the sound than the rest of table.Then comes the synergy of it all-that cart with how much flexinility of cap,resistance,gain of phpno pre it one companonent ahrd or one soft.If looking around or allready owning a rig my own vot would be for value or a good deal and if it's used how good a shapeit's in.I have never had a problem with my VPI Aries but my buddy once he had one problem that requires a fix it led to more fixes and hassles forever with his model 19.But if you got a goood tight 19 you can builkd off it and at a lower price and up with someone who just blindly plonks down more money on something that has more prestige and doesenm't have synergy with the res of there rigs.Lastly there are great product that make very little penetration into the USA market like the Blue Note tables from, Italy.

P.S.S get a good tech whop knows what they are doing.Tables are not like the skills meed to say hang and hook up a Plasma TV.You want to know that advice or work is comepetent.
all IMHO
chazzbo
I have owned all you mention and more, except for the Teres.

What kind of comparison are you looking for?

Best value, most memorable or fun, best during the time in which they were created, most reliable, easiest to set up, most beautiful or perhaps best performance regardless of price ?

For a start, here is an article I wrote for Positive Feedback on evolution of source which is precisely on this subject.

Evolution
That's a very interesting read, Albert - thanks!

While I would like to upgrade, going the Walker route would be an impossibility: it costs too much. $25K?

At any rate, can you name a few good tables that could stand the test of time? Tables that will be better than my Basis 2000? If the improvement is just marginal, I'd pass up the upgrade plan. But if I can hear significant improvement, I'm all ears.

I'm suprised you never mentioned any impressions you may have of any Teres table.

Best,
George
George,

I know Albert will be able to give you a much more experienced answer. However, the differences between your 2000 and a Basis 2500 will be quite significant. I made an upgrade from a 2001 to a 2500 last year. Much, much more dynamic and the bass will give you that chest thump feeling.

Dan
I agree with Dan on the upgrade path of Basis. In fact I was about to name a used Basis Debut Gold Mk IV as an "ultimate" cost effective goal.

The Walker is better, but a guy in my group just bought a Basis Debut Gold with Graham 1.5 ceramic arm for $3800.00. That's a lot of turntable for a reasonable price.

I also have a warm spot for the Well Tempered. I see them come and go for less than a grand and although no Basis Debut, it is a splendid performer and extremely quiet due to it's bearing design.

The only reason I have not mentioned Teres is because I owned all those other tables and have only heard the Teres at audio shows. While some show conditions are better than others it is pretty difficult to assume your hearing the turntable (or arm and cartridge) with all the associated equipment variables.

Chis and I spoke about the possibility of him bringing the big Teres to my home at some point. I can't imagine when he would have time with his backlog of orders but maybe a business trip will bring him this way and we can have a listen.