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Groove-Glide vrs Last Record Preservative

I'm looking for opinions on the different qualities and characteristics of Groove-Glide vrs Last Record Preservative.
I personally have only used Last. I think I hear a smoothness (more analoguey?) after using it. I've taken to opening new albums, applying Last, waiting five minutes, playing the record, then cleaning my stylus and cleaning the record and putting it in a new sleeve. Mostly I use the product for the promise of being able to listen to the album once per year for the rest of my life without it losing fidelity.
I'd especially like to hear from someone with experiance using both products, comparing and contrasting. Anyone know of any DIY similar products? Why is this stuff so expensive (other than the fact that they can charge anything and we'll buy it?) I'd love to buy a 55 gal. drum and break it down it 5 oz. bottles to sell on AudiogoN at about a buck a pop!
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hlfoyd5c247
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I used last for a number of years, but after using the Nitty Gritty on several Last treated products, the sound was degraded substantially. I have been using the Gruv-Glide product for about a year. It doesn't hurt, but I am not certain how much it helps. I believe that it and Last are 2 completely different products with different purposes.
hififile
236 posts
 
Dear hlfoyd,

You are exactly right! LAST is a preservative & actually changes & alters the vinyl structure permanently.

GRUV GLIDE is a dry record treatment that enhances sound, completely gets rid of static, and enhances the trackability of the stylus in the groove. It does not alter the vinyl and can be washed off completely if you desire.

GRUV GLIDE is also much easier to use & way more economical
IMHO.

Hope this helps.
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hollowman
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I use either LAST, or both. And I do mean BOTH. So, normal LAST application first, and then GG. Been using this method for decades with no ill effects, Back in the early 90s, I spoke with LAST in Livermore, CA, and asked whether it was safe to use BOTH. They claimed no problem. 

I also use Stylast, which is a stylus tip coolant that is effective for about 20 min.

I have styli going back to mid 1980s with over 2K hours, but they look and sound new. 

Note: before applying the LAST or GG, the records have to be very clean (so the treatments can interface with the LP pvc molecules as much as possible).  LAST’s own Power Cleaner is fine for this. Or you can use a machine. Then apply the treatment/preserv. of choice.

Good hygiene practices, like CF brush and stylus brush, are a must. And your ’table/arm is , of course, properly calibrated . 

dogberry
956 posts
 

Gruv Glide smells delicious!

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slaw
26,406 posts
 

From my experience with both, Gruv Glide is a coating that your stylus will pick up. Last actually is absorbed into the record.

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