Can a off the shelf DAC, if engineered/implemented good, sound as good as a custom DAC?


I heard 2 conflicting rules for DAC chips:

1) It's not so much about the DAC chip, but how well it is implemented

2) Custom DAC chips will beat off the shelf DAC (ie ESS) chips anyday 

 

So my question is... if for instance, the all in one DAC streamer Sim Audio Moon 891 which uses a ESS DAC chip... can it sound as good a Grimm Audio MU2, Lumin X2, or M3I which all have custom in house dacs? 

dman777

DAC chips are pretty well refined in 2026 , it is their implementation but more importantly the analog stage that makes a DAC sound good.  

 

@dman777 

The job of a DAC chip is to convert digital samples into an analog signal. I believe that most modern, widely used DAC chips are already extremely accurate, so audible differences often come more from the surrounding circuitry than from the chip itself.  

In other words, assuming the audio system is properly matched, it is usually everything before and after the DAC chip INCLUDING the power supply, clocking, filtering, and output stage, etc. that makes a DAC based component sound great.

@axpert 

+1, I own the SCHIIT YGGY+ LIM DAC and like it very much    The LIM DAC setup was easy, though I do wish the input symbols were larger and easier to read.  I use one USB input from my Infigo Auto IS-1 Streamer (uses Audirvana Studio ) and one Toslink input from my LG OLED TV. 

The addition of the SCHIIT YGGY+ LIM DAC to my audio system has substantially improved my sound quality.   I immediately noticed my system sounds much better.  The music is clearer, bass is more powerful, and imaging has improved.  This is the best sounding DAC I have ever owned.   

The best advice I can give anyone shopping for a DAC is simple: listen to at least 3–4 DACs side by side and choose the one that engages your senses like no other. Specs, measurements, hype, and forum opinions can only take you so far. System synergy, room interaction, and personal taste matter far more in the long run.

In my experience, fewer but higher-quality components and a cleaner signal path usually outperform a chain full of tweaks and add-ons. A truly great DAC should draw you into the performance emotionally with natural tone, believable texture, effortless flow, and zero listening fatigue.

The “best” DAC is not necessarily the most detailed or expensive one; it’s the one that keeps you listening for hours and reconnecting with your music collection.