Suggestions for an all in one integrated with source built in


I'm looking to upgrade an old setup that I've had for many years. It lives in a seldom used (by me) vacation home so doesn't see a lot of action. But when I do use it, I tend to immerse myself in it for days at a time. I will have more opportunities to get out there in the upcoming years so I want to upgrade what I have.

The current system was assembled over 10 years ago using an April Music Aura Note V2 and a set of Wharfedale Jade 3 monitors. It's a delightful system for the price, but technology has advanced and I think I can do better now. Also my budget is much larger than it was back then.

I have a perhaps irrational interest in sticking with an all in one setup like this. Not sure why that is. Maybe I can be talked out of it, but I would like to explore what else exists on the market before I consider abandoning this form factor. It looks like a lot more integrated amps have onboard DACs so maybe this is not the limitation it used to be.

I don't play a lot of CDs any longer so a good streaming solution must be involved. Any new device is likely to have this covered. Don't care if it has a display or not, but a remote is required, I don't like just using my phone for that.

The speakers will be replaced with another set of monitors as well. I intend to try out some of the usual suspects like B&W 805 D4, Focal Sopra and Kanta series, KEF Reference 1 Meta, maybe some Harbeth and Spendor too. Might try some more adventurous brands if I can get my hands on demo units easily. Bottom line, I won't be using anything extremely difficult to drive, nor anything ultra sensitive.

A few ideas I had include the NAD M33 v2, Hifi Rose RS520, and the Naim Uniti Nova. What else should I take a look at?

996turbo911

The PWR-222 should arrive this month; very excited to hear them with my new Spatial Raven preamp and the JA Perspectives!

Months later, I'm still working on this upgrade. I finally had some time to spend listening to speaker options and managed to knock out a bunch of contenders, although I was surprised at how good most of them actually were. Discounting a bad fit for a particular room, it seems that most speakers in the $5k+ range are at least fairly good if not great. Here are my notes if anyone is interested.

KEF Reference 1 Meta: Great starting point, these did a lot really well and I could probably be happy with them. They lacked dynamics and perceived impact though, also tone felt just a bit off, almost artificial in some ways. 

Borresen C1: Beautiful and fast, with excellent detail and imaging. Tone was a little too thin for my liking. And the price seemed higher than the sound could justify, as good as it was.

Mon Acoustic PlatiMon mkII: Contender! These hit the balance just right between detail and full body tone. Really dynamic with excellent resolution. Highly impressive.

Franco Serblin Goldberg: Another contender, stunning midrange, excellent balance, also look like pieces of fine art on speaker stands.

B&W 805 D4: Surprisingly competent, very enjoyable all around performer with no weak spots but also didn't quite stand out enough. A safe bet, enjoyable if not the best. I actually liked these significantly more than the KEF which was surprising as in the past it was always KEF>B&W. Price feels high for what this is, I could probably get a nice discount from a dealer though.

Piega Coax 411 g2: Somewhat similar to the Borressen in sound, beautiful immediacy. Great with acoustic performances. If I planned on using a subwoofer these would be a compelling option, lacking impact and richness on their own though.

Marten Oscar Duo: Among the most musical sets I auditioned, these get my toes tapping. Lacking a bit of realism and top end air which kept them one step down from the best I heard. I bet the higher Marten models are excellent. 

Gauder Akustic Berlina RC3: Another really good one that just didn't stand out enough. I've enjoyed the big Gauder speakers over the years, these had some of the same magic but I would argue not enough. 

Joseph Audio Pulsar 2 Graphene: Quite possibly my favorite of the bunch. Almost jaw droppingly huge presentation, also very well rounded, these just sound like real music. I need to hear these one more time along with the Franco Serblin and Mon Acoustics to see which of the three is the winner. But I am leaning towards the Pulsar.

 

Also still researching all in one units to pair with whichever set of speakers I end up with. Right now the ones that appeal most are the Molo Mola Kula with integrated DAC card, the Thrax Ares MK2, and the Gato Audio suggested above by @kirkwallace . We'll see what I come up with. I imagine any of these three, mixed with any of my three top speaker choices above, would be a massive improvement over the modest current system.

Great process and progress, @996turbo911 ! Please keep us posted as you finalize the speaker choice and as you try out those amp/streamer/dac units.

(If you end up liking the Gato DIA 400S NPM over (or at least as much as) the other 2, with the $ savings you could go for the Perspectives instead of the Pulsars ….)

@kirkwallace Thank you, I will periodically update as I continue the (slow) journey. I'm also in the middle of building a third system in my regular home (I know, ridiculous), and that has been getting more of my attention lately. But this vacation home upgrade is long overdue so I should focus on that as well. 

I could go for the Perspectives if there was a worthwhile benefit, the money is not a huge deal. But I'm concerned about them overpowering the relatively small space where this system resides. It's a sort of side room off the main living room, connected but basically isolated, and only about 12x16 in size with a low ceiling. So it doesn't take much to overpower the space, particularly on the low end. 

I have the Pulsar Graphene's, so am interested in your comparison, especially with the Mon's.  Also, interested in the amp you choose.  I love the look of the Gato's.  Honestly, I can't find anything the Pulsars don't sound good/great with.