@nubiann provide the evidence that usb cables do not make any difference in sound quality and I will gladly read it. Also please list your system: components, speakers, cables…add some context to your evaluation that you had done with usb cables (list the cables that were evaluated).
USB cable recommendation
I have an Aurender N150 and a Garlubidor Divinity DAC. I'm trying to figure out if my Transparent USB cable is limiting my hardware. I asked AI to make a suggestion, and they recommended a Shunyata Theta, Audioquest Diamond and Audioquest Carbon. Now I guess I'm looking for a human's suggestion.
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audphile1 Predictably Lame distraction and diversion! Why don’t you instead answer the question. My system is not the discussion point here and I really don’t require a critique from you friend. Also I make no claims related to the superior performance of exepnsive USB cables, that has fallen to you. I just see the USB standard and accept basic requirement that this type of interconnect benefits from proper shielding, mechanical contruction keeping the length as short as possible. In this respect there are many reasonably priced cables that will be a match for these ridiculously priced, prettied esoteric offerings. I choose whom I share detail with, depending on the level of engagement and open friendly discussion. Sadly that rarely applies to your comments on this forum, as it is quite apparent you prefer to devalue the opinions and views of others rather than engage in discussion. Following many years working for Sony as a quality Auditor and development Engineer, my current industry is Nutraceuticals and Probiotics and my company correctly relies on peer reviewed published papers to support what we say and do. I dont think it unreasonable to start calling these companies out, and putting the onus on them to prove what they claim. Some companies USB cable products cost $1000’s, they should front up and actually prove they do do make a difference. Or are they simply milking aspiring audiophiles? I strongly suggest the latter is true. As far as I can research there are no double blind tests neither is there any supportive product measurement data. Instead there is plenty of meaningless hyerbole that they dont have to justify. Conversely there is quite alot of independent measurement data to support my assertion that their claims are mostly arrant nonesense as many here suspect. Infact these companies rely on people like you to parrot the advertising blurb, convincing others that they are missing out. For instance, your comments endowing a simple data carrying USB cable with the ability to miraculously extract ’more detail’ from the data, or to be able to make that same packet data somehow be especially ’analytical’ is typical, at best its simple parroting, at worst its simply disingenuous and foolishly misleading. Many here, despite an industry that is full of BS have saved and navigated a way to putting together systems that work for them and in the process have been persuaded to waste lots of hard earned cash along the way. I fall into that category but now I ask questions and challenge obvious falsehoods. Its sad that someone who has aquired knowledge chooses to use it so negatively. |
I have no interest in engaging with you on this or any other audio related topic. 1. I listen to my system with my ears. Not with an oscilloscope. 2. My system is highly resolving, my room is acoustically treated and my ears, thank god, work properly. This allows me to pick out differences, large or small, between components, cables, cartridges, different versions of masters of the same albums on digital and analog 3. Once again, we’re not printing word documents. USB in audio is highly dependent on implementation in both streamer and DAC. It will sound different. When you have a system that can resolve these differences and you have an ear to pick these changes out, and you stop reading ASR nonsense and actually listen instead of reading that garbage, let me know. For now, take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend.
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@nubiann But you’re claiming budget cables sound just as good as more expensive cables without having done comparisons yourself and basing it solely on theory and limited measurements. There are scores of people here who’ve heard very significant differences between USB cables in their systems and relatively very few who find more expensive cables make little/no difference. Yes that’s admittedly subjective evidence, but when it’s so heavily skewed in one direction surely it’s indicative of something at least worth consideration and not just completely dismissed as everyone just fooling themselves. Does that really seem like the more likely scenario to you? Plus, several manufactures offer generous return periods (Veritas, DH Labs, etc.) where you’re only out a few bucks for return shipping if you don’t hear a significant improvement so really very little reason to not just try for yourself. But I get it that it’s much easier to just dismiss it all as puffery and that everyone else must be wrong rather than make any effort and possibly risk your beliefs being upended. God forbid you should actually try it out for yourself and see. 🙄 |
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