How do small woofers produce large bass?


Hi All,

I am looking at loudspeakers... I currently own the Arendal 1723 THX Monitors. 2 8" woofers each. I listen to probably 80% home theater and 20% pure two-channel music of all sorts. I am contemplating upgrading the speakers, and there are a number that I am very interested in. The Arendals are killer for music and home theater. In fact crazy amazing at home theater. I have also 2 SVS SB-3000 subs. 

But as we all know, wanting to upgrade. blah blah ad nauseum.  :) 
 And most everything I’m looking at has 6.5" bass drivers, usually 2 per speaker. I am looking at the Acoustic Energy Corinium, the KEF R11 Meta, the Dali Opticon 8 MKII, and the PSB T600.

I have a fear that the bass will be plenty for two-channel music, but won’t have that bad-ass slam of the Arendal’s dual 8" drivers. So my question is sort of a scientific one or a physics one. I am baffled as to how the 6.5" drivers in all of these new speakers are going to produce home theater sized bass. I’ve watched every video, read every article about those 4 contenders (above) - and everything/everybody says essentially "no worries, the woofers are lighter and faster, and since there are two of them, they make a great deal of bass. I just think I’m not seeing the "science" or "physics" of that. Like how are these 6.5" drivers going to handle something incredibly powerful/dynamic (bomb blasts/gun shots/thunder/explosions etc etc???  I’m afraid I’ll be let down by something like the PSB T600’s or the KEF R11 Metas when head to head with the dual 8" drivers in my Arendals. I’m hoping people can assure me and/or run through the science....  thanks to all.    Oh, and yes, I do cross over to my two subs at 60Hz.   

audiotruth

As others have noted, one can get deeper and stronger bass by increasing excursion and this might compensate for the smaller cone area vis-a-vis another driver with a larger cone.  But in audio, as is the case with almost anything else, there are tradeoffs involved.  My favorite drivers are low excursion drivers meaning that I don't go for extremely deep bass.  My speakers utilize twin 12" drivers in a Jensen-Onken cabinet and they can go as deep as 35 hz.  While this does seem a bit modest, this low excursion driver is very fast and clean and blends well with the horn/compression midrange driver of my system. 

A local builder uses 18" drivers, sometimes in twin driver arrays and he says it is good to 30 hz or so.  He will soon be building with 31.5" woofers that are rated to 28 hz; I've heard the prototype and it sounds great.  It is not just the amount or depth of bass that matters; large driver/speakers deliver a sense of weight, large scale and authority (with no feeling of strain) that smaller systems cannot match.  My own system, which is two feet wide by three feet all and about 18" deep is on the tiny side for a horn system and does not have the weight and scale of the systems with larger woofers and much larger horns.

Several factors come into play when discussing the abilities of woofer drivers. Given the materials used to produce the cone, type of compliance, spider stiffness, the resonant frequency of the driver, all affect performance. There is science behind it, but the case design matched to the charactistics if the woofer create the desired sound. 

As far as woofer size, the effective radiated area of 2 six inch woofers will be about the same as a 12" woofer. In the right cabinet design, they can perform impressively.  My experience is that a larger woofer will give more slam, hit, kick, in a 12" woofer vs two 6". However, the two 6" will likely respond more quickly in music dynamics because there is less mass to control.

Both will get low frequencies equally well.

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@deep_333 

What the hell are you talking about?

15 hz to 120 hz is 3 octaves...2000 hz to 16000 hz is also 3 octaves.

You are right; I mean 0.0007% or 1 octave from 15-30Hz (15/20kHz) because a good speaker can do 30Hz without help.