persistent 60 cycle hum only on tube gear


I know this topic has been addressed in the past but I'm hoping for the "latest tech" answer.

I have a persistent 60 cycle hum in my ARC tube gear. Not in my Bryston power amps or preamps- just the ARC tube pre and power amps. All XLR. 

I have installed an isolated, dedicated ground system (8' copper rod driven into moist earth) , a Ground Master unit between the chassis and the ground line, I  clipped the ground wire from my 20a 120v dedicated circuit, pretended to ignore the hum (that didn't work well).  I even replaced the tube sets with ARC OEM tubes in the pre and power amps (sonic improvement but no hum cure) .  Still the confounded hum.

Before I spend more money and failing I'd like your personal experience opinion on what worked for you. 

Thanks!

 

yesiam_a_pirate

I am confused, did the problem exist before you established a second ground and/or clipped the ground wire to your breaker box? BTW, pretty sure separate grounds are frowned upon, and can pose some risks.

Using an isolated ground is expressly prohibited by the National Electrical Code.  It is unsafe and may also prevent any surge protection from working correctly.  For Audio, it is also completely unnecessary.   You would have seriously created a less dangerous situation by just lifting the ground altogether, which is also a bad idea.

It’s highly likely that you have an issue with the voltage differential between your new ground and neutral, and some gear may be more sensitive to others, causing the hum. 

There is exactly 1 condition under which you can use an isolated ground, and that is when you have an isolated power generator, such as solar, or battery back up that is not otherwise bonded to the incoming grounding electrode system.  So if your only priority is to have an isolated ground, then you have to have an isolated power generation system as well.  

Of course, should something happen to you, or you sell the house, this wiring mistake will live on with no one aware.  

Erik Squires pointed to one issue I was thinking. Another that took me a while to find was an internet router/wifi too close to the tube preamp.

Try unplugging every SMPS power supply in your house (wall warts or bricks, i.e., laptop chargers, desk top speakers, etc.).

Does your ARC gear have a ground plug on the power entry? If you have a DMM. measure pin 1 of each XLR connector to the power inlet ground to check for chassis ground. It should read continuity or a low value R such as 10 ohms. If both amp and preamp XLR jacks are chassis grounded and both have a ground plug, put a cheater plug on the amp. If still humming put the cheater plug on the preamp. If either works in solving the hum, then you most likely have a wiring issue in one of the units that compromises the grounding path.

I had hum like that that I could not figure out until I stumbled on the fact that the mesh network node was too close. Once moved to the other side of the room, the hum went away. In my case too close meant three or 4 feet away.