Who Uses KIRMUSS Restoration System?


I met Charles Kirmuss recently at the NY Audio Show, Michael Fremer calls him a Propeller Head, I found him convincing,

https://kirmussaudio.com/ka-rc-1-ultrasonic-record-restoration-system/ 

WHO has/uses his system?

One option is to simply buy and use his spray to change the polarity of my solution while manually scrubbing

 

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/kirmussaudio-refill-for-record-cleaning-spray?variant=21481583640636&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21210884586&gbraid=0AAAAADOxtycV5gvu5FafWNp5eVdWGP5vu&gclid=CjwKCAiA8bvIBhBJEiwAu5ayrN87JC_yhRwY4T3GJh1Q5UIM0_UBudZ-vxF8hDqm9edXlIS9RLKHLhoC0TIQAvD_BwE

 

another is to buy Upscale’s package for $1,199, the revised slots let you clean 3 12" LPs, 1 7", no 10" slot for 78’s, (default design is 2-12, 1=10", 1-7")" and the price matches the discounted ’show’ price

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/kirmuss-audio-in-the-groove-ultrasonic-record-cleaner-upscale-audio-edition?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=4ee2ce899&pr_rec_pid=2374425280572&pr_ref_pid=2382896889916&pr_seq=uniform

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I watched a long slow video, haven't seen this, but it is only 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgU9lzVfkug

 

elliottbnewcombjr

@petaluman 

Many machines can mount and spin 12"10" 7" lps,; some slots on the tops are size specific regarding size and quantity, Kirmuss makes a poing of not having more than 3 in order to keep them spaced so the bubbles can get between them.

if you mean the chemicals safe/effective for materials78’s are made from, I suggest you ask others, including Kirmuss, and 

member lnitm, OP of this related discussion:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/kirmuss-ultrasonic-vinyl-cleaner

if you ’search discussions’ (search box top of window), you will get many like this

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/how-best-to-clean-old-78s?highlight=clean%2B78s

 

 

Hi,

I have used it for years. No need to go through all the steps unless the LPs have been previously been treated with chemicals. All my vinyl were treated with 2 sessions of 5 min and dried off. All clean and sound fine. I didn’t see the point of the whole procedure as it wasn’t needed. Of course his business model is the procedure combined with the liquids he sells. The unit is like a printer and the money is made with the ink…

@dogberry 

from Kirmuss site

"Since both the water and record have the same slight negative charge, water with or without a cleaning solution added in an ultrasonic’s tank with a record spinning cannot see any sonic action in the record’s grooves. Like charges repel, which is why the Kirmuss process sees the record subjected to multiple cycles as the ionizing spray that is applied to the record only temporarily changes the charge of a record to a positive. As the record spins, the charge is reduced. By reapplying the ionizing spray prior to introduction into the sonic’s tank, the opposite charge returns, stripping out films left over by prior cleaning methods then the release agent itself (Shure in the 1970s called this a “pressing oil”)."

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so I have been wondering how to get a Positive charge in my mix when I do my manual and vigorous scrub

 

I could buy and use Kirmuss mix, expensive, or, as discussed in this subsequent discussion, buy and add a bit of glycol to my mix.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/kirmuss-ultrasonic-vinyl-cleaner

this stuff, costs only $0.60/oz?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4W8S79G/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWw