Who Uses KIRMUSS Restoration System?


I met Charles Kirmuss recently at the NY Audio Show, Michael Fremer calls him a Propeller Head, I found him convincing,

https://kirmussaudio.com/ka-rc-1-ultrasonic-record-restoration-system/ 

WHO has/uses his system?

One option is to simply buy and use his spray to change the polarity of my solution while manually scrubbing

 

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/kirmussaudio-refill-for-record-cleaning-spray?variant=21481583640636&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21210884586&gbraid=0AAAAADOxtycV5gvu5FafWNp5eVdWGP5vu&gclid=CjwKCAiA8bvIBhBJEiwAu5ayrN87JC_yhRwY4T3GJh1Q5UIM0_UBudZ-vxF8hDqm9edXlIS9RLKHLhoC0TIQAvD_BwE

 

another is to buy Upscale’s package for $1,199, the revised slots let you clean 3 12" LPs, 1 7", no 10" slot for 78’s, (default design is 2-12, 1=10", 1-7")" and the price matches the discounted ’show’ price

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/kirmuss-audio-in-the-groove-ultrasonic-record-cleaner-upscale-audio-edition?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=4ee2ce899&pr_rec_pid=2374425280572&pr_ref_pid=2382896889916&pr_seq=uniform

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I watched a long slow video, haven't seen this, but it is only 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgU9lzVfkug

 

elliottbnewcombjr

I’m also thinking about HumminGuru for essentially clean LPs, or a final clean after a manual scrub of a dirty one. $490. delivered, already in usa so no import tarriff. I really like it's small size, easy for me to keep on bottom shelf of my audio rack.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809863252564.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21611.27%21489.02%21%21%21%21%21%40%2112000050948544694%21ppc%21%21%21&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&gclsrc=aw.ds&albagn=888888&ds_e_adid=&ds_e_matchtype=&ds_e_device=c&ds_e_network=x&ds_e_product_group_id=&ds_e_product_id=en3256809863252564&ds_e_product_merchant_id=5583434704&ds_e_product_country=US&ds_e_product_language=en&ds_e_product_channel=online&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_url_v=2&albcp=20536623837&albag=&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20327454928&gbraid=0AAAAAD6I-hFo7wVM2vdrlB2-pQrIlZuRY&gclid=Cj0KCQiArOvIBhDLARIsAPwJXObnWIgH06Q5r51b0dg3nX69B8aCVw4ZEjDKqlYgZn98WVTKuFV2fLgaAqn1EALw_wcB&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

 

A separate decision, for my manual scrub, his positively charged cleaning fluid? 10oz, $95.

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/kirmussaudio-refill-for-record-cleaning-spray?variant=21481583640636&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21210884586&gbraid=0AAAAADOxtyfJxNtqGyAnadCYcu1DUn7GN&gclid=Cj0KCQiArOvIBhDLARIsAPwJXObURnFulMpjksXWljkztfaN49Ct8O0BoQp7JcL9J_egVZvSVT5HaqYaAtKFEALw_wcB

Who’s happy with HumminGuru?

Who thinks positive charge of cleaning fluid would make any difference?

 

I sat through his demos twice at SWAF. In my opinion, the system works and works well. But the reality is that the amount of time and effort involved is insane. 20 minutes to clean approximately 45 minutes of music (or less). 

I've been tempted to get it and treat it like a regular ultrasonic cleaner. The ability to run 3 LPs through an ultrasonic at the same time is appealing. Then if something is really needing the full process, maybe make the effort occasionally. But the thought of doing this for every album - no way. Let's say you do the full 3 at a time and you can get to running 25 minutes per cycle. If you have 1000 LPs, that's 138 cleaning. Almost 6 full days that you could have been listening to records. And really 1000 discs ins't even a significantly large collection when you consider how many albums are 2 LPs. 

Costs aside, it's very hard to justify even though it does ultimately work very well. 

@petaluman 

Many machines can mount and spin 12"10" 7" lps,; some slots on the tops are size specific regarding size and quantity, Kirmuss makes a poing of not having more than 3 in order to keep them spaced so the bubbles can get between them.

if you mean the chemicals safe/effective for materials78’s are made from, I suggest you ask others, including Kirmuss, and 

member lnitm, OP of this related discussion:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/kirmuss-ultrasonic-vinyl-cleaner

if you ’search discussions’ (search box top of window), you will get many like this

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/how-best-to-clean-old-78s?highlight=clean%2B78s

 

 

Hi,

I have used it for years. No need to go through all the steps unless the LPs have been previously been treated with chemicals. All my vinyl were treated with 2 sessions of 5 min and dried off. All clean and sound fine. I didn’t see the point of the whole procedure as it wasn’t needed. Of course his business model is the procedure combined with the liquids he sells. The unit is like a printer and the money is made with the ink…