@gdaddy1 interesting post re: wood layers and Glop. pray tell, what ratio of clear silicone to sand did you use? And how thick of a layer did you put on the inside?
Are exotic speaker cabinet materials overrated?
Seems a lot of speaker companies are coming out with new non resonant cabinet materials all the time. Wilson especially seems to be inventing a new M X V material every year. Other top speaker companies seem to be staying with MDF even when their speakers match the above mentioned speaker company prices. Do these exotic materials really contribute to a better sound or do they add an unnatural quality to the sound.
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@simao I can't take all the credit. The idea comes from the Northcreek cook book. To get the stuff to stick properly I coated the inside cabinet walls with contact cement first. Then pumped several tubes of silicon into a bucket and mixed in sand to what I felt was a good consistancy. Then, with gloves, spread by hand the entire interior. No need to smooth it. Just glop it in there. Let it be rather bumpy and irregular. Drys in a day and seals the cabinet as well as adding dampening to every square inch. Goes thick into the corners. Takes a little bit more effort but I believe it's superior to ANY stick on dampening pad. Thickness is variable but I use about 1/4" thick in some places a little more. It's really up to you. Then goes in the normal foam or fiber fill stuffing. The stuff stays soft and rubbery for decades and adds a nice amount of mass to the cabinet. |
@yoyoyaya You're right, basic concrete is not a good choice. However, there are additives that can be mixed into concrete that makes it an excellent material to use especially when creating special shapes. It also requires a mold. The complexity becomes far greater. Polymer modifiers, Latex/Acrylic polymers
Pros for speakers:
MDF is not “cheap” — it is acoustically well-behaved. The only advantage concrete may have is for molding shapes. MDF remains a superior product if properly braced and dampened. |
Adding substances to Board Materials with the intent to improve the board materials Damping Factor, is known about for a long time in circles where there is a importance on such matters being aired. Modellers Putty from the Brand Newplast, measures with a Damping Factor that is 50% better than Plasticene. Newplast added to Board such as MDF has created a DF of 0.3, which is very attractive, but intrinsic properties for Dissipation is not attractive when measured. Dissipation of most board type materials coated with a material that improves the DF, does not produce a board type that match's a RIDWB intrinsic properties. Control of resonance through Dissipation is an extremely attractive intrinsic property for a material. High Damper Factor alone does not win over, hence Plinths for TT's using such a design have been Superseded in use for many years, where Dissipation is also a highly valued area of the designs. This same practice is now very evident that it is extending into Structures used for Speakers. |
@gdaddy1 thanks for the details. you do this when you have 5 sides of the cabinet glued and b4 the crossover instal? also my son and I recently put together a Parts Express C- Note and decided to cut our own 3/4 inch BB in lieu of the 1/2 inch mdf you can get if you order the cabinets. |
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