Upgrading pre amp advice.


I am thinking about upgrading my pre amp (Bryston BP 25) for a pre amp which is also neutral but more musical/fluid and even more reveaIing. Also I want more 'depth' and better placing of instruments and voices. It's always hard to describe in words ; )

At the moment I have a dual mono (dual power supply) Nilai power amp, a Metrum Onyx ladder/NOS Dac (with the latest DAC3 modules) fed by an Auralic G1 streamer (upgraded with Hoerwege PSU) using semi open baffle Qualio IQ speakers.

Budget would be around 2000 Euros / 2350 US dollars.

When possible xlr (balanced) in and outputs.

I am listening to very different styles of music (Classical music, Rock, Jazz, Blues, World Music, etcetera)

 

vhond

Work on tweaking your speaker setup before doing anything else.  It's free, and as other posters have said, save up for something that will actually be an improvement over your Bryston (which is already good gear).

Buy a great preamp, it's the heart of your system...   It's the one piece I have historically spent more than I budgeted for every time.  .   

A great pre can really elevate your system, a not so great one can be the bottleneck of an otherwise excellent system.  

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the Musical Fidelity Ms8pre  , I have it mated with an Jc5 Halo and also tried the Ayre K-5xe- mp and JC2 bypass . The MS8pre just ticked all my boxes and sounded phenomenal! 

My "advice" is to buy an Audio Analogue DAC for $5k with an analogue volume control and pull out your preamp and its interconnects(and sell it all!) from the chain. 

A DAC with a very good analogue volume control removes the need for a preamp, which is basically an expensive volume control that adds its own characteristics. 

That's what I'm doing with a Playback Designs DAC. 

@vhond 

So I can’t offer a straightforward amount. 
Here’s some background.

my starting point was an Auralic g2.1 streamer feeding a Sonnet Pasithea DAC using the DAC as a preamp. I actually really loved this combination. But then I went crazy and wanted to add a turntable to the mix and the DAC only had digital inputs so I needed a separate preamp. That’s when I tried two separate preamps in the 3k price range and was not happy with either. Felt like I was going backwards.

in my exploration for a third preamp I read some great reviews of the Grimm MU2, which would replace the Auralic , the Sonnet, and provide what people said was a fantastic analog pre, and so figured I’d give that a try.

turned out I agree wholeheartedly with all I read and this was clearly a step up in my overall listening experience, but it was also a price increase that felt really had to swallow at that time.