??? Established Manufacturer or Take A Chance ???


With the proliferation of gear makers going belly up I got to thinking about this...
 You are getting pretty long in the tooth & have an itch to build what will most likely be the system playing at your wake,hopefully not for another 15 years give or take...
 Lets say you already chose your speakers & are now looking to get the amp to drive them..You've done the shortlist,spent some time running around to demo components accessible to you and narrowed your choices down to 3 or 4 pieces...
  Here is your conundrum.. 1 or 2 of your choices are made by long established manufacturers & the others are fairly new in the industry,say 2-3 years and priced around 20% less than the well known models...
 Remember,EVERYTHING else about them is equal...Do you pony up & buy from the well established makers or do you take a chance on a new to the industry maker & save some coin?Please expound on why you decided the way you did...
 
 

freediver

 

If I understand your question correctly, it’s not really about money.  The only costly thing about a Williamson is the output transformer.  It must be able to tolerate 20dB of feedback, and remain stable without exhibiting extreme phase shifts beyond the audio band.  That’s not necessarily a deal-breaker.  I’ve seen stable Williamson clones using Edcor and Hammond transformers.  But then you get into the issue of sonic integrity and distortion characteristics with a lesser transformer.  

 

The Williamson has a distinct signature due to the all-triode front end.  It offers a solidity and realism that other designs don’t.  It was abandoned in the late 1950’s because other designs, like the Mullard, were cheaper and more stable and could offer more power with less fuss.  In my opinion, once you push the Williamson past 30-35 watts, it loses its magic.  To my knowledge  no one offers a commercial Williamson design these days.

 

What would I buy instead?  I don’t know.  I’ve heard a lot of tube amps over the years but none of them "floated my boat" like the Williamson.  But I certainly haven’t heard them all.  I will say that, when the circumstances are right and you turn someone on to a Williamson, it’s pretty captivating.

@freediver great question.

As a retailer, I’ve supported both boutique and mainstream manufacturers, and as an audiophile for over 40 years, I’ve seen the strengths and trade-offs from both sides. In general, I’ve found that you often get more performance per dollar from newer start-ups and smaller boutique designers—especially those who design and build everything in-house.

That said, the advantages of these smaller companies come with trade-offs. Once they gain traction and word spreads, demand usually outpaces capacity. Lead times stretch out, and if you ever need service or repairs, turnaround can go from a few weeks to—believe it or not—over a year.

Another challenge I’ve experienced is version control. Many small manufacturers are constantly tweaking and updating their designs. Within a year, there might be three different “versions” of the same model, which can make resale tricky and sometimes confusing for owners trying to keep up with revisions.

As for newer, larger start-ups—Halcro is a good example. I became a dealer shortly after they became the buzz of the industry in the early 2000s. By 2008, they were gone. Once the company shut down, the resale value of their amps dropped like a rock. The thing is, you don’t know in those early days whether a company will turn out to be the next Halcro—here today, gone tomorrow—or go on to become a household name. In the beginning, it’s always a bit of a leap of faith.

On the other hand, established brands generally have the infrastructure and financial stability to support their customers long-term. They’re usually better funded, offer more consistent service, and their products tend to hold resale value better. You do, however, pay a bit more to get the same level of performance you might find from a boutique maker or a new start-up.

In the end, there’s no absolute right or wrong choice—just trade-offs. It really comes down to what you value more: maximum performance per dollar and individuality, or long-term stability and support.

That said, there’s something to be said for going against the flow and supporting the smaller, passionate builders who pour their heart and soul into what they do. When you buy from them, you’re not just getting a piece of gear—you’re helping a family business grow, and you become part of their story. There’s a certain satisfaction in that connection, knowing your purchase helps keep the craft side of high-end audio alive and thriving.

The downside is, sometimes it can be extremely frustrating getting what you need done in a respectable amount of time—but for many of us, that’s part of the journey and charm of this hobby.   Cheers, James

Most of my gear are produced by established brands though not mass produced. Some are modern vintage models (late 90's early 2000's) that are not produced anymore though still repairable by the brands.