Usually I do not pick up records at garage sales and swap meets. However, last week I was at the local swap meet and sure enough a vendor had two records I was interested in. The first was a M&K D to D disc of Earl Hines 'Fatha'. The second was a Nautilus Master of Joan Baez ' Diamonds and Rust'. Both had sleeves that looked VG+, with the vinyl looking like VG++ to M-. I bought both for a good price, US cleaned both and to my surprise the M&K was actually better sounding than VG++..with no noise at all! The Nautilus was another story, because even though it looks M- to VG++ it has noise in various areas. Not enough to say it is not a usable copy, but enough to make me wish i had passed on this copy. I guess you just never know for sure.