I was at Axpona as well but didn't take the time to hear the Legacy system but I did stop in the Dutch & Dutch room to hear the 8c's. A brief demo was done for us and I was as impressed as I thought I would be by them. Anyone else check out Dutch & Dutch and have a comment?
What are your opinions of DSP's for speakers
This seems to be a popular trend with many speaker brands. Some have internal amplification with DSP's and some have external implementations of it like Legacy. I have heard some good results with it being used but don't necessarily like the idea of everything being digitized for the sake of room/bass correction. Do you own or plan on buying a speaker like this, or have you heard any using it?
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I have always been astonished by DSP systems before and after demonstrations in a as you say, 'no business in' rooms at audio shows. Autonomous system setup for the newly baptized, terrific. My Velodyne Plus subs have been pulling that same trick off since 2011. Amazing. Back at the show the next room I sit down in, lets say the Zesto room. The total analog-ness is like a dose of Dilaudid. My neck and shoulders slump into that fatigue-less bliss. What is that? We're in our retirement home. One word, 'ranch' style. You take care. M
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@m-db "Ranch" around these parts is either a dip or dressing....but being from SoCA, know the ’techtural style’....even if you’re not ’there’...I bolted early... ;) Back when, it was all manual adjusts that made the neighbors worry about alien abductions underway...*L* It’s nice now to let it do the thing, punch Mem #. and tweak to taste.👍😊 Dilaudid at an audioxtravaganza is a serious brush with TACS (Totally Annihilated Credit Syndrome), and is usually followed by anaphylaxis-like symptoms only during the flight/train/drive home....typically: "WTH did I just do?" 😏 Symptoms start with blissed-outs, which you Definitely had. Next is hands trying to ’roll’ anything....your program. The map of floors and the endless rooms and stalls....’rolling your tongue’, frustrating when you can’t (and not everyone can....). Vendors LOVE when that happens.
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@speed121 they're one of the best speakers I've heard so far and I've heard many. I have a friend who has a mastering studio and he uses the 8C there and has a pair with some PSA subwoofers for his TV/personal music space
They're incredibly effortless with presentation, tangible elements in a mix are just laid bare in all its beauty. Gives you the truth as is which I adore |
Is it possible to have perfect room, treated or not? My understanding is that, at the very least, it's almost impossible to treat a room for low frequencies completely. One may have an excellent room that sounds very good but that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. DSP can implement functions that simply are not possible with room treatments, such as variable phase correction across the frequency range. I implement DSP in my two channel system (via MiniDSP hardware and Dirac Live software). If there is any degradation in sound, as some claim, I don't hear it and the benefits achieved through DSP room correction far outweigh any. For me, in my space (partially treated with absorption panels on key surfaces, 14x24'), my system went from sounding not right, fatiguing, uneven bass response, to one I look forward to listening to every day. I'm sure it's not perfect, but I couldn't tell you what's wrong with it. |
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