Measurements by ASR is (I think) the topic of this thread. I find them very useful.
Generally if you do the opposite of what ASR recommends you'll be right on.
Jerry
I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements
My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.
The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.
You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).
If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.
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Before Thyname or anyone else starts to insult me as a shill for Amir, let me state I'm not a member of his site. I didn't even know who or what ASR was a year ago. According to some members I committed the ultimate sin by suggest Amir was right about something. Anyway, as for measurements, I don't think it's correct to say they are "bogus". They are clearly showing something, but weather or not that something is important could be debatable. A lot of this bickering could be put to rest is more manufactures would simply publish their own measurements to back up their claims? For example, PS Audio makes this statement about the PP 20. "The P20 features an ultra-low impendance analog power amplifier and FPGA based DSD engine that delivers the cleanest, lowest noise sine waves of any regenerator in the world." So would it kill them to includes some with and without test results that back up the statement? Low hanging fruit for Amir? Just pointing out the obvious? |
@yoyoyaya can you provide evidence to the contrary? |
@bigtwin :
Why not join his site? Maybe you can find the holy Grail , what you are looking for? World will be a better place?
I agree. Putting in my watch list what ASR bashes, and avoiding what they recommend works very well for me. For the past 20 years
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