Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

What @fleschler said about Amir,

@Amir Keep your fans on ASR.  Can't hear differences in cables that measure the same=something is very wrong here.  .....   You think you are superior to nearly everyone who posts on Audiogon because your opinion is based on measurements (except when you don't find a measurable difference ala cables, tweaks, etc). 

Amir's exact words,

I have repeated over and over again that listening tests are the gold standard over measurements. 

 

How do we move forward if the same lies continue to be repeated?

How do we move forward if some audiophiles refuse to put their faith to the test and do a blind listening test?

@amir_asr I find it interesting that these Dutch lads could do speaker cable tests, find measurable differences and on the subjective side hear the difference in the various speaker cables.

May need to use your translation features for some of the pages.

Interesting these guys are testing some very nice gear. And do blind testing what ever your name is @crymeanaudioriver 

 

I found this quite interesting and it appears the folks over at this site do quite a bit of testing. They seem to be very transparent about their test equipment, methodology and end goals in testing. They even make a statement as such.

 

You consider it transparent, I consider it amateur. It is interesting that you consider this transparent, but do not give the same consideration to ASR. This was my first Google hit. The difference in level of detail and depth and quality of the information is not subtle.

 

 

only issue i have with his testing method is he never tests in actual use just isolated on his tester / bench. so, he won't see interactions of the components and how they affect each other just the raw test of the single component / cable.  No interaction of a speaker cable to the amp and speaker for example. no indication of issues with a component not liking the impedance or capacitance of a cable etc. Testing in isolation is only part of the story. 

Other than that, it's just more information to make an educated assessments prior to listening for yourself.