Finally made the transition to a tube preamp!


I was always curious about the much hyped sound that one can get from quality tube amplification. People talk about 'tubey magic', 'the golden glow', etc. I was always curious, but was reluctant to go in that direction because the received wisdom is that unless you spend big bucks (like, money you could buy used car with), tube amplification will only disappoint. The rationale is that with less than top notch tube equipment, all you get is a muddled sound with weak, flabby bass and rolled off highs.

My opinion started changing once I obtained Carver M-4.0t power amp. I bought it because I wanted a lot of power to drive my Magnepan MG-1 planar speakers. Once I hooked Carver M-4.0t to my Maggies, the sound was transformed. Not only did Maggies start singing, the very character of the sound drastically changed. Carver made that amp with the intention to emulate his flagship tube power amp, and by the way that amp sounds, I'd say he came pretty darn close. Yes, I started hearing that 'magical 'tubey' sound. Very exciting!

However, that's not what really changed my way of enjoying music. Intrigued by this encouraging discovery (courtesy of the Carver amp), I started looking for an all tubes preamp. Of course, quickly realized that without paying at least three of four grand, I won't be able to afford quality tube preamp.

Then, by accident, found an ad on the craigslist selling Dynaco PAS-4. Tempted, I offered $475.00 and next thing you know, I got the preamp. 

OK, so now, with Dynaco PAS-4 hooked into Carver M-4.0t, the sound is completely, radically different than anything I was able to hear before. This preamp is incredible. It seems to have it all: soft, sweet, mellow, liquid, golden glow sound coupled with muscular bass. It delivers almost frightening slam, and the soundstage is way larger than before.

Isn't it amazing that for less than $500.00 one can get such amazing sound? The only problem is, as I understand, Dynaco PAS-4 is quite a rare find. Allegedly, it was produced in the early 1990s in very limited quantities.

Bottom line, if you spot this preamp for sale, don't hesitate to snatch it. In my experience, it is quite amazing!

crazybookman

Welcome to the faithful believer’s club. Transcendence shall be yours. 🤣

I've been listening to tubes for over 30 years, and have no plans to backtrack.  I listen to tubes for their clarity, spatial separation, micro dynamics, and uncanny glimpse into the recording room.  They simply give me a more convincing illusion of natural sounding music, and reveal huge differences between recordings.  

Another plus is that you can roll different tubes to tailor the sound to your liking. Enjoy! 😎

 

Thank you. Yes, the sound delivered via tubes is at a whole different level. It is indeed transformative!

Where can I learn more about that arcane skill you call "roll different tubes to tailor to the sound to your liking"?

Where can I learn more about that arcane skill you call "roll different tubes to tailor to the sound to your liking"?

Tube rolling is optional of course, but it’s unique to tube gear and adds an element of fun and interest. Many/most (at least some) tube gear owners find that different brands of vacuum tubes...even those of the same type and similar specs, can sound different. The results can vary a lot depending on the particular circuit that’s in play, and the results are very subjective. Your system and your room will play a factor. Your system with the Maggies should be more revealing of the differences than most. You only need to please yourself, so no worries. Since you’re new to tubes, I’d spend some time with what you’ve got, get very familiar with the sound, and do some research in the process. Tubes have gotten a bit expensive since the Russian/Ukraine invasion, but there are good deals if you look.

It’s cheaper to start with the preamp and driver tubes of the amp vs the output tubes. It’s best to go in increments vs all at once so you can appreciate whatever differences there might be...it can be subtle. It’s also good to allow several hours for new tubes to burn in, so take your time with each move....it’ll give you lots of time to research and think about the next move.

There are some direct substitutions of type that are possible....just be sure to read up on which ones. Changing amplifier output tubes may require a bias adjustment, so read up on how the Carver handles the biasing....some amps have a user friendly potentiometer, others are auto biased, and some even require a resistor change, so you’ll want to check into that before changing output tubes.  You may need a simple voltage meter for biasing.  The preamp tubes and the driver stage tubes of the amp shouldn’t need any bias adjustments, which is another good reason to start there.

https://www.themasterswitch.com/how-to-tube-roll

 

This is not an absolute definitive tube comparison, but there are some interesting comments and charts...it’s something, and can’t hurt to look, but don’t be afraid to go your own way.

https://tubedepot.com/pages/tube-comparison-tool

Have fun! 😎